The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 9 - Final)

[deb usa]

Oh My Ruskie ...we would have so much fun!!!!!

We never did find out what happened to Ann Fox ... it was great finding her though!

I think one day I may read through all our posts again! I think we all went to bed and woke up thinking about them! It was a great search.

deb 

[Ruskie]

Reading Nat's diary has set me on the path of reading other diaries (I have purchased several), but I have such a soft spot for Nat and he is still my favourite.

I think some of us became quite obsessed with him (didn't we Deb?  ) and the characters in his life.  Ann will probably forever remain a mystery which is such a shame - there's not much I wouldn't do to find out more about her. I have re-read the diary and our posts since the diary finished, but I've been thinking about re-reading again. I'm sure we must have missed quite a lot of things. Maybe one day I will start a "Nathaniel Bryceson revisited" post.

And Nat's other diaries are still at large. What a thrill it would be if another one turned up.  I am still hoping. And if anyone can work out which of those Mary Ward deaths is 'our' Mary, then I will be happy to purchase the d/c. 

I really hope that one of the rootschatters can make it to the talk on the 12th to represent us. If circumstances were only slightly different I would be on a plane tomorrow. 

[deb usa]

Hi Ruskie,

I have been rereading the diary …now I’m all involved again LOL 

Mary Shephard was b June 27th 1797  and baptized July 23rd 1797 , St Pancras Old Church, d/o John and Mary.

Matthew Ward was living in Richmond buildings in 1841, just before they married.

A Mary Ward of Richmond Buildings was buried at St Anne Soho, 29 October 1847 aged 50 ( found by Siamese girl aka Carole, in part 1    )
This was in Westminster.
I think we all think that this is “our” Mary … age and abode fit!


These are Mary Ward’s (dying in Oct/Nov/Dec q1847), their reg districts;
Oct 1847 - St James Westminster,
Oct 1847 – Marylebone
Oct 1847 – Pancras
Oct 1847 - Holbron

Then going to the London Burial index;

Mary Ward, Richmond buildings, age 50 ..as above St Anne Soho … Westminster RD

A Mary Ward of 43 Eagle Street, b 1807, buried 28 Dec 1847, Queens Sq, St George The Martyr, Camden …...Holbron RD?

A Mary Ward of new Milman Street, Guilford St,  b 1781, bur 12 Dec 1847, Gray’s Inn Rd, Holy Trinity, Camden ….. St Pancras RD?

I’m looking for a fourth Mary Ward’s burial to correspond to the death index: No luck yet

I would think that this is Mary:

Death reg
Mary Ward, Oct 1847
St James Westminster
Vol 1 p 113

What do you think?

deb 

[Ruskie]

Deb, these are the two I narrowed it down to, but looking at your finds and logic, I think I may be wrong:

29 Oct 1847, St Anne, Soho, Mary Ward, Richmond Buildings, age 50
there are two possible deaths:
Both deaths Dec 1/4 1847,
Ward Mary,
either St Pancras 1/328
OR Marylebone 1/152 

I find the registration districts a tad confusing, but if anyone can support your Westminster theory, I'm happy to go with that one. Also, even though she was buried in St Anne Soho, might she have died in an infirmary (or elsewhere) rather than at home? In this case might she have been registered in another district? 

I'm not really sure, but I think your theory fits well Deb. 

[deb usa]

Hi Ruskie

I am also not up on the RDs of London so I googled LOL ..this is what I found regarding the London Burials that I posted.

St George the Martyr Holborn is an Anglican church located at the south end of Queen Square, Holborn, in the London Borough of Camden.

Here's a list of nearly 50 district churches and chapels associated with and lying within the boundaries of the civil parish and borough of St Pancras; includes :Holy Trinity, Grays Inn Rd, Cem. Chap. – 1838
 I also read somewhere that it fell under Holborn after 1839 ...I'm hoping someone has more info than I do.

St Anne's Soho [Westminster], the church of, is situated on the south of Dean Street, Soho, near the lower end towards Gerard Street; and the church yard reaches from Dean Street on the east to Princes Street on the west

Regarding the death reg of Mary Ward ; ST JAMES, Westminster ... google reveals:
St James: It corresponded to the western portion of the contemporary district of Soho, the eastern part of Mayfair and the northern part of St James's.To the north the boundary was along Oxford Street with St Marylebone, to the east it had a boundary with St Anne, Soho running along Berwick Street and Rupert Street. To the south there was a boundary with St Martin in the Fields, roughly along Pall Mall

As I said before ... I'm not up on London areas so hopefully someone can correct me if I'm wrong.  In 1841 St Anne Soho's RD was Strand, Westminster ...so now I'm not sure about anything. 

Ruskie ...when I was searching yesterday I saw a burial where abode stated 'infirmary' ...I am thinking that our Mary most probably died at home, hopefully with her family around!

Deb

[Ruskie]

Hi Deb. I was just about to sign off when I saw your post. I think the evidence is pointing towards you being correct regarding the St James death being our Mary. Even if we don't get any confirmation (or otherwise) on the likelihood of this death being correct within the next week, I will go ahead and order the certificate.   

I have got a few things on at the moment but I should have some free time next week to get back into it.  I want to re read the diary and all of our posts. I'm sure we must be able to fill in some more gaps if we put our heads together.

[nestagj]

Woo hoo !! I have really missed Nat - all I needed was a good excuse to re-read it......

Can I join you ?

Nesta

[deb usa]

  ...Hi Nesta ...Of course you can !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How fun!

I was searching for Ann again yesterday...I wonder if she is the Ann Fox, Bible woman, in Essex in 1861? 

[nestagj]

thank you
N