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Groesffordd, Isgeifiog Parish, Flintshire, North Wales
« on: Tuesday 12 April 05 23:35 BST (UK) »
This is suppose to be where my ancestors lived until they came to America. I was hoping someone could tell me about my ancestors home.
Who lives there if they are Edwards, Where I could write to see if they would have old picture of this area and maybe if they have old Edwards pictures.

Thomas Edwards, Jr. born 1723, son of Thomas Nathaniel Edwards, Sr. born 1690 and Elizabeth Isabel Downing, married Elizabeth Nichols October 23, 1743 and they moved to Groesffordd, Isgeifiog Parish, Flintshire, North  Wales were Robert was born in 1743.
Others born there:
Robert's son, Owen Edwards born July 13, 1816
Owen's son, Edward Owen Edwards born December 18, 1838

Edward came to America and I don't have any more information of my Edwards living in Wales.



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Re: Groesffordd, Isgeifiog Parish, Flintshire, North Wales
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 April 05 15:13 BST (UK) »
Hi there,
Is the name Groesffordd a house name or the name of an area etc?.
Literally translated from the Welsh it means crossroads----groes/croes =cross;ffordd=road.
If you Google the name Ysceifiog you will find loads of info on the area,some of it obviously of no use to you at all but there will be plenty about the area itself which may be of interest to you.
You can also try the following site if you haven't already done so:
www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/FLN/Ysceifiog
I hope this is of some use to you.Good luck in your research.
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Re: Groesffordd, Isgeifiog Parish, Flintshire, North Wales
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 April 05 22:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your information.

I had a cousin who was visiting there take a picture of the house. I was told it was at a crossroad and it was the name of the house.

There was a sign with Groesffordd on the gate.

I have notice Ysceifiog and Isgeifiog are spelled alot alike, Do you think the parish is Ysceifiog unstead of Isgeifiog?

Thanks again.
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Re: Groesffordd, Isgeifiog Parish, Flintshire, North Wales
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 April 05 13:08 BST (UK) »
Trust me---Ysceifiog and Isgeifiog are the same.The spellings are different probably due to a certain amount of the name being Anglicised--Y to I and mis-mutation of the Welsh language(don't ask)--C to G.
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Re: Groesffordd, Isgeifiog Parish, Flintshire, North Wales
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 April 05 13:22 BST (UK) »
Thank you. I will make a note on my family tree. This could be why I didn't find Isgeifiog Parish.
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Re: Groesffordd, Isgeifiog Parish, Flintshire, North Wales
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 May 05 11:18 BST (UK) »
hello,groesfford is used quite a lot in wales,as,mentioned beford it means cross roads,do you have any other information about your particular groesfordd?
i live very near to an old house called groesffordd,and it would be classed as in the ysceifog parish.julie
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Re: Groesffordd, Isgeifiog Parish, Flintshire, North Wales
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 14 June 05 20:36 BST (UK) »
I only have a picture of it that was taken by another Edwards. I wish I could tell you more.
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Re: Groesffordd, Isgeifiog Parish, Flintshire, North Wales
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 06 July 05 13:30 BST (UK) »
Can you post a scan of the photo? You never know, there may be someone here to recognises it.

We've had a couple of similar threads on just that subject on Rootschat, which also turned up a lot more other information as well.

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William Williams of Llanllyfni
John Jones in Llanelli
Evan Evans in Caio
David Davies of Llansanffraid
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Jones: CDG, DEN

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Re: Groesffordd, Isgeifiog Parish, Flintshire, North Wales
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 July 05 01:58 BST (UK) »
This is a picture of the house and the other picture is suppose to be the road to get there. Rod Davis (orginal banjo player for the beatles took these pictures, He is related to a Mary Edwards buried in a church yard near the home.
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