Abraham Garrad d 1868

[shanew147]

I have the baptism record for both Abraham jnr (3rd March 1865) and Henry (19th Jan 1867) both in Kilkenny, both RC.

I have no idea why Kilkenny!
As far as I know, Catherine (Kate) Poynton came from Tallaght?
...

I was thinking that there may be additional details on civil certs for Abraham and Henry relating to Abraham snr's occupation and full address that might give a clue.

Based on Catherine's residence at the time of marriage I checked Griffith's Valuation and there are a few Poynton listings in the area including a Francis that might be worth checking further. See : Poynton, Griffith's Valuation  It would fit with him being a farmer. 

It's slightly unusual that they would marry in Dublin City as this usually took place in the brides' parish..


Shane

[KGarrad]

. . . and still doesn't explain why the boys were baptised in Kilkenny?

[shanew147]

. . . and still doesn't explain why the boys were baptised in Kilkenny?

not just baptised... according to the Civil Index also born there.

my guess is a temporary move relating to Abraham's work


Shane

[KGarrad]

By that time, his brother John Whitmore Garrad, was a vet in the British Army and/or Indian Civil Service Stud Department. (Not too many records for vets with the army!)

Would it be possible that Abraham was servicing a cavalry Army regiment in Kilkenny?

They were there twice - both births - so there must be some link there?

BTW JW's retirement was mentioned in The Irish Times, 23rd December 1874.
as far as I know he had no link with Ireland apart from Abraham?

[shanew147]

.....
Would it be possible that Abraham was servicing a cavalry Army regiment in Kilkenny?
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There was a barracks in Kilkenny at the time.. so that could be  a possibility

Did the baptism records give parish and address for the family ?



Shane

[KGarrad]

Now why didn't I think of that?!

Number: 252
3rd March 1865
Parliament Street, Kilkenny
Abraham, Male
Father: Abraham Garrad, Parliament Street, Kilkenny
Mother: Catherine Garrad, formerly Pointer

Father was a veterinary surgeon
Informant: Mary McNully (? something Nully) present at birth


For Henry I only have the baptism record.
Address: Parliament Street, Kilkenny
29th January 1867
Informant: Mary Burch
Mother & father as above
Notes: [E] Mother given as Kate

[shanew147]

it looks like they were at the same address in Kilkenny city for at least two years.

I was thinking that if Abraham's work at the time had a military connection he might have mentioned something in the occupation details on the cert. Maybe he he left Dublin and ran, or shared, a practice on Parliament st for a while in the mid to late 1860s.

Parliament st is in the centre of the city. As far as I can see the barracks at the time (Barrack Street) would be about 1km away to the north east (closer as the crow files).

see :

 Parliament St to Barrack St (google maps)
 and
 Barracks, Kilkenny (OSI maps)

Select the 25" option to see the c1890 map, or either of the 6" versions to see c1820s/1840s maps



Shane

[KGarrad]

Thanks Shane - I spent a bit of time (at work!) trying to find historic street maps!

I see that Parliament Street was called Coal Market in the 1820/1840 maps?

[shanew147]

a little bit earlier than the timeframe for your Abraham, but might be of interest :

 Entries from Slater's directory of 1846 for Kilkenny

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Shane