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Abraham Garrad d 1868
« on: Sunday 05 December 10 09:48 GMT (UK) »
This is a long-shot, but here goes!

My 2xG Grandfather, Abraham Garrad, was born in Essex in 1821.
After his first wife died (1851+), he moved to Dublin.

He appears in the Dublin Street Directory in 1862, at 32˝ Dawson Street, where he was running a Livery Stables.

There are also various advert's in the Irish Times around that time.

He married Catherine Poynton at St Annes on 8th May 1861.
3 sons were born: Francis (1862, Abraham (1865) and Henry (1867), and a daughter Margaret (dob unknown).

Young Abraham and Henry were apparently born (or baptised) in Kilkenny as Catholic. Why?!

Elder Abraham died on 9th July 1868 in Tallaght, of TB.


My questions:
Where would Abraham be likely to have been buried?

What happened to the family?
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Re: Abraham Garrad d 1868
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 05 December 10 10:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kevin

Thanks so much for your mail. Sorry to reply to a post other than that relating to the Crockers  but I'm new to this site and not too sure how it all works.

I'm facinated to learn about your work on the Crockers. Unfortunately quite a number of my recent relatives have died including my mother Anne
Elizabeth Crocker and her brother, my uncle John. I have relatively little information about my family but recently visited my Aunt Barbara who was William Crockers sister in law. (Minnie (Margaret??) Crocker was married to William crocker. Barbara was Minnies sister). My aunt Barbara gave me an old picture of William Crocker as a small child with his father (my great grandfather) Do you think this gentleman might be related to you? I'd be happy to scan the picture and send a copy to you if it might be of interest. I also have other pictures including some of Crockers shoe shop in Glastonbury from way back and many others which are pretty old and include people I don't recognise as relatives but may well be. 

I will post another message and that will make three. Then hopefully we might be able to exchange further information via PM's.

I hope you don't mind me contacting you again and I also hope I haven't broken site etiquette by replying to your non Crocker post.

Kind regards

Richard

Barbara mentioned someone called Ethel to me also.

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Re: Abraham Garrad d 1868
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 December 10 11:05 GMT (UK) »
It depends if he was buried as CoI or Catholic.

if CoI he could be buried in St Maelruain's Parish Tallaght which also has a cemetery beside it.
http://www.stmaelruains.ie/

It Catholic... hmmm there use to be an old cemetery up on where Donomore Ave is in Tallaght but they built houses on it.

Not sure about a Catholic cemetery
Wilson: Kirkoswald, Scotland and Dublin
Breen: Hendrick Street, Brunswick Street,Dublin
Moore: Kildare and Dublin
lyons: Hendrick Street and Brunswick Street,Dublin
Donnelly: Marrowbone lane, Braithwaite street, Dublin
Byrne: Mercer Street, Dublin
Mills: Dublin, Wicklow
Higgins: Dublin
Gray: Aryshire, Scotland
Mills King, Wicklow and Dublin
Donegan, St Catherines Parish, Dublin
Murphy: Enniscorthy and Ballybanoge, Wexford
Browne, Crean, Kelly, Keavney: Sligo.

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Re: Abraham Garrad d 1868
« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 December 10 11:25 GMT (UK) »
His wife was catholic, and his 2 sons were baptised catholic.

Abraham himself came from an English CofE family - some of the family were clergy!
Abraham was disinherited from his father's will - because of the catholic link, I strongly suspect.

But, thanks for the info.

Do you happen to know if there was a TB hospital in Tallaght?
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Re: Abraham Garrad d 1868
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 December 10 11:34 GMT (UK) »
The nearest one that I am aware of is Peamount hospital in Newcastle that was established in 1912 as a TB hospital. It is about -7-10 miles from Tallaght..

Not sure if there was a nearer one or further back
Wilson: Kirkoswald, Scotland and Dublin
Breen: Hendrick Street, Brunswick Street,Dublin
Moore: Kildare and Dublin
lyons: Hendrick Street and Brunswick Street,Dublin
Donnelly: Marrowbone lane, Braithwaite street, Dublin
Byrne: Mercer Street, Dublin
Mills: Dublin, Wicklow
Higgins: Dublin
Gray: Aryshire, Scotland
Mills King, Wicklow and Dublin
Donegan, St Catherines Parish, Dublin
Murphy: Enniscorthy and Ballybanoge, Wexford
Browne, Crean, Kelly, Keavney: Sligo.

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Re: Abraham Garrad d 1868
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 December 10 11:39 GMT (UK) »
Thanks anyway!

I was (briefly!) working in Dublin a few years ago.
Intrigued to see that 32˝ Dawson Street still exists!

Opposite the Mansion House, on the corner where the alleyway/lane goes to the RAC Club garage.
So I assume that the stables used to be where the garage is now.
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Re: Abraham Garrad d 1868
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 December 10 12:00 GMT (UK) »
Thom's 1877 :

Dawson Street

  32   John Goodwood - homoeopathic chemist
   "    S. Watson Mann esq.
  32a  Patk. Quigley - picture frame mkr.
  32 1/2  Laurence Hunter - veterinary surgeon

I'll check a slightly earlier directory (1868) to see what the details at that time...


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Re: Abraham Garrad d 1868
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 December 10 12:13 GMT (UK) »
I already have the 1862 directory.
Abraham died 1868, so he should be in that year's directory.

If you would be so kind!!

Thanks a million!!
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Re: Abraham Garrad d 1868
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 07 December 10 12:20 GMT (UK) »
I was kind of expecting to see the livery stables still being there in 1877 - would fit with it eventually converting into the RAC premises.

I think possibly the lane where this is located may be listed separately in later years

will get back to you later on...


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