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Re: What does this mean on a medal card?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 06 December 10 08:29 GMT (UK) »
Wow, that sounds hopefully Ady and much closer to home, making the medal card a possibility then? I would assume there are still no service records available. Is there any avenue for exploring this regiment etc? (and thank you for the number crunching)
Thanks for the PM Peter.
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Mason - Yorkshire
Manger -Tynemouth/Hull
Turner - Cottingham
Franklin - Cottingham
Lawrence - London
Bailey - Northumberland
Butler - Hampshire/Channel Isles
Harms - Hampshire/London/India/Northumberland
Timson - Ware, Hertfordshire
Wild & Nield - Lancashire
Row(e) - Buckinghamshire
Manders - Buckinghamshire
Wilkins - Herts
Lamberts - Herts
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Re: What does this mean on a medal card?
« Reply #19 on: Monday 06 December 10 09:01 GMT (UK) »
I'll have a look for the service records for all those men we found MICs for and see if there is anything of use.

PJ
JONES [East London, Deal & Dover, Kent]
CROWHURST [Sussex & Kent]
GOYMER [Deal & Dover, Kent]
NEWSOM(E) [Kent]
GUY [Kent]
EZRA [St. Pancras & East London]
LINDSEY [North London & East London]
ARKELL [Glos. & East London]
CURTIN, O’SHEA, JAGOE, DONOVAN [Cork City, Ireland]

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Re: What does this mean on a medal card?
« Reply #20 on: Monday 06 December 10 09:21 GMT (UK) »
Lottee,

In many cases, service records will give the names of NOK - parents / spouse / children, therefore assisting in the process of elimination.

Would it be at all possible for you to let us have these details in respect of Victor? No problem if you are unable to do so.  :)

Regards,

Peter.
JONES [East London, Deal & Dover, Kent]
CROWHURST [Sussex & Kent]
GOYMER [Deal & Dover, Kent]
NEWSOM(E) [Kent]
GUY [Kent]
EZRA [St. Pancras & East London]
LINDSEY [North London & East London]
ARKELL [Glos. & East London]
CURTIN, O’SHEA, JAGOE, DONOVAN [Cork City, Ireland]

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Re: What does this mean on a medal card?
« Reply #21 on: Monday 06 December 10 09:30 GMT (UK) »
No problem.

His next of kin would have been his parents who were both still alive then and they were James Thomas and Theresa Lawrence living in Middlesex.
Lottee
Mason - Yorkshire
Manger -Tynemouth/Hull
Turner - Cottingham
Franklin - Cottingham
Lawrence - London
Bailey - Northumberland
Butler - Hampshire/Channel Isles
Harms - Hampshire/London/India/Northumberland
Timson - Ware, Hertfordshire
Wild & Nield - Lancashire
Row(e) - Buckinghamshire
Manders - Buckinghamshire
Wilkins - Herts
Lamberts - Herts
Crowe -Northern Ireland


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Re: What does this mean on a medal card?
« Reply #22 on: Monday 06 December 10 09:51 GMT (UK) »
Just to add 22812 was either 1st battalion or 6th battalion  they both served in Gallipoli at same time i would think he was a casualty replacement as he arrived in the Gallipoli Theatre of Operations in Dec 1915.(2b signifies this area)

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Blackburn (Castleford)
Sidwell(Ledsham)
Fairburn(Hartshead)
Wood(Liversedge)
Tallon (Whittington Lancs/Hartshead West Yorkshire)

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Re: What does this mean on a medal card?
« Reply #23 on: Monday 06 December 10 10:00 GMT (UK) »
These are the service records I was able to find, (the search also included pension records):

8378 Victor Lawrence
East Surrey Regt.
12 Avenue Road, St. John’s Wood
Father: Lorenzo
Mother Fanny

316836 Victor Lawrence
Labour Corps
Transferred to the Reserve in 1919 (poor eyesight - injured 20/03/1916)
Clerkenwell Cottage, Haddenham, Bucks.

2673 (199137) Victor Lawrence
Royal Engineers (Transportation Branch)
This last man turned out to have the middle name of 'William'.

Looks like the search isn't over yet!  ;)
JONES [East London, Deal & Dover, Kent]
CROWHURST [Sussex & Kent]
GOYMER [Deal & Dover, Kent]
NEWSOM(E) [Kent]
GUY [Kent]
EZRA [St. Pancras & East London]
LINDSEY [North London & East London]
ARKELL [Glos. & East London]
CURTIN, O’SHEA, JAGOE, DONOVAN [Cork City, Ireland]

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Re: What does this mean on a medal card?
« Reply #24 on: Monday 06 December 10 22:32 GMT (UK) »
Lottee,

could you confirm when he was born? 1898/99? Was there any mention of him being an underage soldier?

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Doyle - Enniscorthy
McCullen - Coastguards from Drogheda, Co Louth
Shepley - Macclesfield and Wheelock
Clarke - Macclesfield
McDermott - Macclesfield and Dublin
Pender - Dublin
O'Brien - Dublin and Galbally

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Re: What does this mean on a medal card?
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 07 December 10 07:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi
He was born in Dec qtr 1898 and there has never been any mention of him being underage.

And you are right Peter looks like a blank so far.

Thought I would see how many Victor J/James there were in circulation so looked ar the 1901 and 1911 census + freebmd for the number of Victor James or initial J and there aren't many. A Victor Jubilee born 1887 Dorking and a Victor J born 1889 St George Han. Sq.
In the 1911 and 1901 census there is only one Victor J/James.  Found 15 Victors in the 1901 and 13 in 1911 born 1890 +/- 10years, so not a common name.

Lottee
Mason - Yorkshire
Manger -Tynemouth/Hull
Turner - Cottingham
Franklin - Cottingham
Lawrence - London
Bailey - Northumberland
Butler - Hampshire/Channel Isles
Harms - Hampshire/London/India/Northumberland
Timson - Ware, Hertfordshire
Wild & Nield - Lancashire
Row(e) - Buckinghamshire
Manders - Buckinghamshire
Wilkins - Herts
Lamberts - Herts
Crowe -Northern Ireland

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Re: What does this mean on a medal card?
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 07 December 10 08:34 GMT (UK) »
Lottee,

Yes, I also saw the Victor JUBILEE Lawrence - obviously named after QV's Golden Jubilee in the year of his birth (1887).
JONES [East London, Deal & Dover, Kent]
CROWHURST [Sussex & Kent]
GOYMER [Deal & Dover, Kent]
NEWSOM(E) [Kent]
GUY [Kent]
EZRA [St. Pancras & East London]
LINDSEY [North London & East London]
ARKELL [Glos. & East London]
CURTIN, O’SHEA, JAGOE, DONOVAN [Cork City, Ireland]