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Herbert Raven
« on: Friday 03 December 10 14:18 GMT (UK) »
I have a Herbert Raven in my tree who married a Sarah A Burton in Nottingham in 1905 at the parish of St Peter , as hard as i have tried to find out which Herbert Raven he is i am unable to get clarification . On there marriage certificate it says his father is a John Raven , i can find know match to put the pair together, also it states that he is 23 years old when he married in Jan of that year.

I have checked the 1911 census and most of the Herbert Ravens are single and the ones that are married there is no mention of his wife Sarah , there is one possible Herbert Raven, he is married but in prison !!!! I have checked the 1901 census and the only small bit of joy is that there is anther  Herbert Raven in York prison born about 1880 Nottingham but it states he is married already , i have tried my best to find a marriage for a Herbert Raven before 1901 but had no joy, as he was a young lad it must have been with in a few years years of 1901, so may be that could be a lie it also states he is a soldier in york .

Any help would be much appreciated

Luke

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Re: Herbert Raven
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 December 10 15:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Luke

Welcome to Rootschat :)

You have already requested details for Herbert on another thread which I have answered (although you seem to have all the info here) It is best to stick to one thread as information gets repeated and confusing. I will add the link to this thread for others to see.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=499667.new#new

I'll see what I can find for you

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Booth, Hornsby, Northumberland & Durham
Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
Douthwaite, N Yorks & Durham
Geldard, N Yorks
Ward, Cheshire & W Yorks
Swallow, Boid, W Yorks
Kirby, Lowe, Studholme, Geary, Emery, Baldock

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Re: Herbert Raven
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 December 10 16:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi

The Herbert that is in prison, on his service papers gives his mother as next of kin on joining in 1900 as Emma (T)homas of 11 Market Square, Carrington, Notts

Evie
Booth, Hornsby, Northumberland & Durham
Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
Douthwaite, N Yorks & Durham
Geldard, N Yorks
Ward, Cheshire & W Yorks
Swallow, Boid, W Yorks
Kirby, Lowe, Studholme, Geary, Emery, Baldock

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Re: Herbert Raven
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 December 10 16:20 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Evie

Any info is a great help, if you come across a date of birth please forward .

Luke


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Re: Herbert Raven
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 December 10 16:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi

He joined on the 5th December 1900 and age was given as 20 years 9 months and stated he was single.

I am a liitle worried you may be following the wrong Herbert, apart from the marriage have you anything else to go on. Is this the correct marriage? What was his address on the marriage certificate, who were the witnesses, what was his occupation please?

Evie
Booth, Hornsby, Northumberland & Durham
Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
Douthwaite, N Yorks & Durham
Geldard, N Yorks
Ward, Cheshire & W Yorks
Swallow, Boid, W Yorks
Kirby, Lowe, Studholme, Geary, Emery, Baldock

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Re: Herbert Raven
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 December 10 19:19 GMT (UK) »
I could well be going down the wrong path ? all i know is that he was married in 1905 in the month of January at the parish of St Peter in the city of Nottinghamshire. It states that he is 23 years old , he lives at 2 prospect place. Some of the writting is hard to read but i think his father is John Raven
( deceased )  and a Publican as for Herbert it looks like he is a painter or Carter ? as for the witnesses i just cant make them out.

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Re: Herbert Raven
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 December 10 19:46 GMT (UK) »
Could he be Herbert Barnes Raven? b. March 1878 Nottingham 7b 274

1891
William Barnes 42 Lime Stone Labourer Northants Maidford
Jane 41 Leicestershire Barrow on Soar
John Raven 23 Elastic Weaver     "
Lucy Raven 19 Cotton winder in factory         "
Elizabeth Ann Barnes 13 Errand Girl              "
Maria 12 Scholar                                           "
Jane 10     "                                                  "
Emma 8     "                                                  "
William 7    "                                                  "
Herbert 5 Nottingham
Thomas 3       "
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Herbert Raven
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 December 10 20:12 GMT (UK) »
maybe not, just realised my maths is out and he should be born c1882  :-\
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov

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Re: Herbert Raven
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 December 10 21:31 GMT (UK) »
Ive been round in circles for a long time now trying to unravel this , thanks for trying for me .

Luke