Marriage of Treadwell & Wilson

[carol8353]

In 1891- at 4 Dart Street Chelsea

Charles Treadwell 31 carman b Sudbury(but this time in Middx!)
Mary A wife 32 born on the sea 
Ernest Chr Singales 9 visitor b Kilburn

RG12/55 folio 184 page 23

Carol

I think this is his birth Ernest Charles Treadwell in Chelsea in Mar 1883 ref 1a 410-maybe we should be looking for a marriage much early than we first thought

[deb usa]

Hi all

Baptism;
25 Feb 1883
Sudbury
Ernest Charles Treadwell s/o Charles Treadwell (coalman) and Caroline Jane

deb

[Maggie1895]

Following Alan's post I went looking for Ernest, the older brother.

Possible baptism:
25 Feb 1883. Ernest Charles.  Parents,  Charles and Caroline Jane.  
Baptism was in Harrow St Mary, but it appeared they lived in Sudbury?
Charles was a coalman.
Perhaps Caroline died and Charles married again?   As Carol says, such a gap between the children often suggests differing marriages

[Sorry Deb - collided!]

[carol8353]

And a possible first marriage.If it IS Sudbury in Middx 

Marriages Sep 1880   

Treadwell  Charles    Hendon  3a 186   
Worth  Caroline     Hendon  3a 186   

They're in West ham in 1881 and she's born in Plymouth in 1857.
Charles is b in Sudbury Middx and is a Bricklayer!

Carol

[avm228]

More possible children (Kilburn area):

Baptisms: St Augustine, Paddington

27 Mar 1889 William s/o Charles TREADWELL (carman) and Mary Ann, of 26 Herries St
4 May 1892 Florence May d/o Charles TREADWELL (carman) and Mary, of 5 Albert Rd

[carol8353]

I wondered about those children too.

Looks like there were 6 children born to them but sadly 4 of them died.

Here's two of the deaths.

Deaths Sep 1895   
 
Florence May  Treadwell  age 3  in Chelsea  ref 1a 233


Deaths Dec 1890   
 
William  Treadwell  age 2  in Chelsea ref  1a 250



Carol

[deb usa]

That Charles Treadwell marriage is in Wandsworth, Q1 1884, Vol 1d, page 683.  The bride is Mary Ann Jones.    .

This Marriage is on the London index;
Mar 16, 1884
Battersea St George the Martyr
Charles Treadwell, 42, widower, gas fitter,
Mary Ann Jones, 47, widow father = George CAWTE?

so not them I'm afraid.  

[Dave MT]

Thanks for the info.

What I have so far is Charles Treadwell aged 24 and  Labman married a Caroline Worth aged 24 on the 27 Sept 1880 got this form marriage cert. They had a Son named Ernest Charles Treadwell on the 9 Jan 1883 Occupation of father was a Carman. maiden name of mother was WORTH and they lived at 164 Kilbun Lane.

and I also have a copy of birth cert for Lilian Caroline Treadwell But i wonder if it is from the same family now.

[Dave MT]

Alan, your last post yesterday on the 1901 census is where i picked up on there was daughter. also Charles would be the right age and so would Ernest. also where they lived would be in the right place. so i ordered the birth cert of Lilian and that when i found out that there was a differant mother i.e. Mary Treadwell (Wilson)