Lady Ann of Clontarf?

[Pastmagic]

Totally agrre, Shane, which is why I think that may explain the "Guardians" bit on the register.

To cheer Joe, who probably has no idea what we are up to going round the houses like this, here are some of the houses:

[shanew147]

.....
Maybe Shane could try Thom's for the Witnesses - Jane Rose and Edward Burke?   Any  Dublin Rose?...
...

sorry - missed that section of your earlier post until now. I was wondering why you were looking at Edward Burke earlier. Will follow that up now...


Shane

[shanew147]

listings for surname Rose in the index of Thom's 1848,'50 & '52 :

1848

 James Rose, soda water manuf., 6 Silver St
 Richard Rose, barrister, 114 Lwr Baggot St
 Wellington A. Rose esq., 3 Merrion Sq. West

1850

 Alexander O'Grady Rose, solicitor, 7 Inn's Quay & Limerick
 Mr. James Rose, Mountrose, Dalkey
 James Rose, solicitor, 33 Gt. Brunswick St & Limerick
 Wellington A. Rose esq., 3 Merrion Sq. West

1852

 James Rose esq., Monta Rosa, Dalkey
 James Rose, solicitor, 33 Gt. Brunswick St & Limerick
 Wellington A. Rose esq., 3 Merrion Sq. West

Sometimes people are not included in the index but may appear in the street listings, so I checked the section for Clontarf in 1852 - but didnt see any Rose listings..

I looked at the two different marriage records and on the older format one, the bride's witness name looks like Ross to me... two s' at the end. (marriage record 1 & record 2 )

Searching for that as a surname shows a promising result in Thom's 1850... a Jane Ross, dressmaker, Clontarf Sheds. Maybe a friend - or the person who made Jessie's wedding dress... or just a handy witness ?

p.s. no listing for Jane in 1848, but there is a Mrs. Ross (no occupation) listed at Clontarf Sheds


Shane

[Pastmagic]

Well done Shane!

(Joe may not realise that sometimes witnesses could be just anyone who hapened to be around at the time...)

[shanew147]

some Edward Burke listings.. that I dont think were mentioned ... none that near to Clontarf though...

Just one in 1848

 Mr. Edward Burke, Heytesbury place

1850

  Edward Burke & Co., haberdashers &c, 3 Lwr Baggot St.
   (and the inn keeper)

and 1852

  Edward F. Burke, wine merchant, 58 Mid. Abbey St & 44 Lotts. res. 12 Nrth Gt. George's St
  (as well as the Inn keeper & haberdasher)
 


Shane

[hallmark]

Just looking at the 2 entries and while one is transcribed Rose and one Boss it certainly looks like Ross is correct.
 
One looks like Rose but the other is clearly Ross. I'm posting the 2 together and it was the 2nd one I looked at and it looked like Rose but the first one is clearly Ross as witness to me.

[Joseph L. Oliver]

I can't possibly comment on all the last posts, except for I absolutely agree on "R-o-s-s".

This absolutely is my last post till a few days go by.

Thanks all.  If I don't post till after Christmas, I hope you all have a very merry one.

Joe

[Joseph L. Oliver]

I lied.

Here's one of the three silhouettes:

Gotta go!

Joe

[Pastmagic]

Hi Joe,

Do have a very merry Christmas, and thanks for all the fun you have provided....we will take up the trail again after Christmas.

I have been told by someone who knows about these things that it is probably British, c.1830. It is a lovely pic. Jessies mother?  they were the equivalent of the photo back then, and available to all classes...with a bit of luck the other two wil be earlier.....Looking forward to the next one...PM

Later :http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/silhouette.aspx,
Just in case anyone is interested.