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Re: Help reading 1851 census birth place
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 01 December 10 01:16 GMT (UK) »
Think it is Somerset
                Smith Farm

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Re: Help reading 1851 census birth place
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 01 December 10 14:42 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all the help. I will try and find her father - Samuel and see if I can find what "farm" she was born at!

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Re: Help reading 1851 census birth place
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 01 December 10 15:40 GMT (UK) »
Could be Somerset, South Farm.

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Re: Help reading 1851 census birth place
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 01 December 10 15:44 GMT (UK) »
This London marriage caught my eye:

1845
John Tansley, carpenter, m Ezett Elizabeth Read d Samuel Read, farmer

1851 census
HO 107/2000/498/16
John Jones Tansley, 29, lic. victualler and carpenter
Ezett Tansley, 30, b Cucklington, Somerset

She died in 1858 so he has re-married by the 1861 census.

The co-incidences seem too high to ignore.

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Children of Samuel and Hannah (nee Follett m 1810)
Mary 1811 Cucklington
George 1813 Cucklington
Sarah 1816 Milverton
Eliza 1819  Milverton

Lots of Cucklington Reads in the censuses. Certainly worth following up I would have thought.

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Re: Help reading 1851 census birth place
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 01 December 10 17:05 GMT (UK) »
Could the first line,  be a phonetic spelling of 'Middlezoy' in Somerset?
Jenkins: Guilden Sutton/Plemonstall, Manley, Bebington: Cheshire. Wales, Hawarden Fl
Hughes/Jenkins pre-1650 north Wales., possibly Anglesey/ or Huyish of Somerset.
Smith: Somerset, North Curry area.
Dawson: Birkenhead, Lancashire, and USA.
Lawton: Birkenhead, Wirral, Staffordshire.
Jones: Flintshire, Flint
Lea/Newnes: Chirk Mill, Penley, Hanmer, Worthenbury
Williams: Llanbeblig/Caernarvon.
Rowland: Llandrygarn, Anglesey.
Brew/Lewney: Isle of Man
Powell/Bennett/Forward/Coram: Somerset/Wellingto

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Re: Help reading 1851 census birth place
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 01 December 10 17:32 GMT (UK) »
Nicola is it possible to post an image with some more of the place names on for comparison.

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SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
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YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth

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Re: Help reading 1851 census birth place
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 01 December 10 19:24 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to all for more information. I will follow up the marriage lead, as it does seem to be a good link.

Here is a copy of the original image:

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Re: Help reading 1851 census birth place
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 01 December 10 20:31 GMT (UK) »
Although the second word appears to say 'Farm', it may be a mishearing of another word, so I wouldn't put too much weight by what you see. There is, for instance, the hamlet of Clapton-Forms in Cucklington - I don't think that is what it says, but it gives an indication of the sort of word that may have been transribed incorrectly as 'Farm', particularly if Mary gave the information and retained a West Country accent. It would also be unusual (but not unique) to name the farm, but not the village or town in Somerset, when so far away in London.

There are also countless possibilities for the first word. The end appears to be 'th' but actually it is almost identical to the end of 'little' a few lines higher up, so could well end in 'tle'.

If you haven't found it already, this 1841 entry looks the most likely:

Milverton
HO107/951/8
Samuel Reed, 60+, ag lab, Y
Hannah Reed, 45+, Y
Sarah Reed, 20+, Y
Eliza Reed, 20+, Y

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Re: Help reading 1851 census birth place
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 02 December 10 08:10 GMT (UK) »
There IS a place called Worth Matravers in Somerset

So any farm near there could be "Worth Farm" ::)
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