Merchant Navy Apprenticeship/Sinking/Ship route records

[ninja_zxr]

thanks for this.

now that's interesting about what the NMM says because during our visit yesterday to the NMM and going through the lloyds shipping news it says the patras docked at london from gothenburg on the 09/04/1861 and sailed back to gothenburg on the 18/04/1861. I can send over the pictures we took of this if you PM me your email.

I've also emailed the NMM about the patras, so let see what their answer is to me ;-) let see if it matches yours ;-)

fyi - the Patras disappears from the lloyds register in 1866. So i'm wondering if it sunk in 1865, which is when the person I'll investigating is registered as decreased on his child's birth cert.

oh the joys are family history.
Trish

[edalmun]

Now I'm really confused!! I wonder why the two sources vary so on where they say the Patras was. The census was meant to have been taken on the 7th April 1861, and at that time they were are sea, but then that fits with both reports come to think of it.

If you think the ship might have sunk, maybe look into whether there are records for anyone else who was aboard when the census was taken. It's likely that the captain and higher ranking people on the ship would have remained with it from 1861, and so would also have died at the same time, if it did sink.

The more information you try to find out, the more complicated it gets!

Elissa

[ninja_zxr]

i've just sent you an email with the photo's - enjoy.

thanks for you suggeston.

as you will see from the census the captin in 1861 was stanton but from the reports and the lloyds reports we found around the time of it's capture in the USA in 1862 the captin was elliot. we did try and working through the lloyds reports to see if we could join the two events together but our eyes were rolling and the car parking charges were ramping up. if we have time and if we go back to the NMM we will see if we can join the two things up.

[gordonrgw]

thanks all, helpful information here for me also..

(not wanting to hijack thread....)

Does anyone know how I can find more information on specific missing ships, is a visit to Kew/NMM a  must?

I also have an ancestor missing at sea ( robert morrison, ship : MEXICAN 47599   Liverpool, 1863, Steam Appropriation Books, RSS  Liverpool, Steam, Missing since 15/9/1877 : from CLIP site)

thanks

gordon