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Harold1066
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Help - Identify Regiment
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Thursday 25 November 10 19:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Hope somebody can identify the regiment for the man in Uniform in this picture - sorry if quality is not too good - have not got access to the original photo to get another scan.
We believe the medals he is wearing are the Queens and Kings (with bar) South Africa Medals and that the photo was taken sometime before 1910.
Looking forward to replies since identifying the regiment may help us identify the person.
Thanks in advance.
POILE (and all varients), FISHER, BONNER, BETTS, JENNER, MESSENGER, GIBBS (Shutford), FROUD
gortonboy
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Thursday 25 November 10 19:39 GMT (UK) »
hi,,if u have an idea of the medals,,,do u have an idea of who it might be,,,and if so,,,who do u think it could be?
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Harold1066
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Thursday 25 November 10 20:07 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, no we only know two people for definite in the photo one is my wife's Grand-father and my wife's grandmother - she is the Bridesmaid sat next to the Groom. Hence we are hoping by identifying his regiment we may be able to find out if he is a relation.
We know the medals because somebody else identified them for us, however, we are not sure if he got the regiment right.
POILE (and all varients), FISHER, BONNER, BETTS, JENNER, MESSENGER, GIBBS (Shutford), FROUD
neil1821
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Thursday 25 November 10 20:19 GMT (UK) »
I'd like to see a close-up before forming an opinion.
Can you re-scan it again?
Crop out everyone else (they're not relevant), we just need to see the chap in uniform in as much detail as possible.
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elinga
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Thursday 25 November 10 20:40 GMT (UK) »
not sure of the Regiment , but I think he may have a kilt on!
recognise the jacket from some old photos!
good luck!
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Harold1066
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Thursday 25 November 10 22:08 GMT (UK) »
neil1821 - Sorry as I said in my original post I don't have access to the original photograph it belongs to another relative in another part of the country. We only got a copy because we held a family reunion and I managed to persuade people to lend me their old photographs so I could scan them into the computer and make picture DVDs for everyone.
elinga - that would fit with something else we were told - but that has now been called into question hence the request for somebody to identify the regiment.
POILE (and all varients), FISHER, BONNER, BETTS, JENNER, MESSENGER, GIBBS (Shutford), FROUD
km1971
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Friday 26 November 10 07:25 GMT (UK) »
He is NOT wearing the QSA and KSA.
My guess is the Queens Sudan Medal and Khedives Medal with two clasps. You should put the photograph on the Photo section for a dating. One rule of thumb I picked up there was that by 1910 men would have a crease down their trousers. The two on the front row don't.
The QSM would not have been issued until 1900 at the earliest.
The experts on the Photo section should also be able to tell you about the etiquette of where relatives stood. One side seems to be lacking in parents, or at least a father.
Ken
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Friday 26 November 10 09:02 GMT (UK) »
He's a Colour-Sergeant in the Seaforth Highlanders, one of the two Highland regiments involved in the reconquest of the Sudan in 1898. The other Highland regiment was the Cameron Highlanders, however, they wore a blue facing. The Seaforths were present at the battles of Atabara, 8th April 1898 & Omdurman, (near Khartoum) 5th September 1898. That being the case the two clasps on Khedive's Sudan Medal which Ken has identified would read
The Atabara
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Khartoum
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The double-badge on the collar is the clincher, and you can just make out the sporran behind the bride's veil.
Isandlwana
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Friday 26 November 10 19:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Isandlwana
What is the double-badge on the collar ?
Bob.
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