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PEMBERTON - 1853 Victoria
« on: Thursday 25 November 10 10:28 GMT (UK) »
Hello
I am searching for the death records for my G G Grandmother - Mary Ann Pemberton arrived with her husband Walter and 3 sons in Victoria in 1853.
I have traced Walter and the children but cannot trace Mary Ann. I cannot find her returning to England and she is not buried in Beechworth where they headed in 1853. I am thinking she died on the trip but cannot find a death record in BDM. She also did not die on the trip out on th ship.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: PEMBERTON - 1853 Victoria
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 25 November 10 11:43 GMT (UK) »
When did Walter die, was she still alive then do you know?

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Re: PEMBERTON - 1853 Victoria
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 25 November 10 13:39 GMT (UK) »
Do you have her parents' names?  Many death records in Australia list parent names which makes it easier to find the right person.

I am assuming Walter married Mary Ann BEST Jun qr 1844, registered at Kensington? (only one that seems to fit from Free BMD.)  IGI has this birth/baptism entry:
Mary Anne BEST
Born:  08 NOV 1823   
Baptised 13 APR 1828   Saint Luke, Chelsea, London, England
Parents: GEORGE BEST, Mary Anne   

PROV has digitised letters of administration for "Walter PEMBERTON, the elder" carter of Beechworth died 8 April 1895.  His widow is given as "Blanche PEMBERTON of Beechworth"  so perhaps Walter had married again after the death of Mary Ann  ???

IF this is your chap his marriage to Blanche COADE took place in Victoria in 1874.  Reg no 1463

Could the marriage to Blanche be his third??  Or is this the son Walter - it seems to me more likely that this is the son

There is another marriage for a Walter PEMBERTON to Elizabeth Ann NICHOLLS in Victoria, 1866 Reg no: 1332
There are deaths of 7 children of this couple:
1869 Samuel Pemberton Parents: Walter, Elizabeth A Nicholls
Victoria Reg no: 8454
1943 John Thos Hy Pemberton, 69, died Edon, Victoria
Parents: Walter Pemberton and Eliz Nicholls
Victoria Reg no: 338
Francis Jos Pemberton, 70,  1946 Northcote, Victoria Walter, Eliz
??Dk Wm Pemberton, 65, 1943 M Ponds, Victoria Walter, Eliz Anne
Henry Tregillis Pemberton, 78, 1960 Kew, Victoria Walter, Elizabeth An
Thomas Alfred Pemberton,72, 1954 Park, Victoria Walter, Elizabeth A
Edwd Jas Elgin Gordon Pemberton, 67,  1953 St Kilda, Victoria Walter, Eliz Ann
Ruby Alice Pemberton, aged 7 months 1888 Beechworth, Victoria Walt, Elizabeth Ann - this one shows that Walter and Elizabeth were in Beechworth.

Electoral roll for 1903 shows the folowing PEMBERTONs listed in Beechworth:
At Kerford St:
Charles Edward, Elizabeth Ann, Frederick William, John, Walter, Thomas Alfred and Selina?
At Allen Rd - Frederick, Mary Ann

You would need to purchase some certificates to be sure.  Walter's death certificate should show his marriages - if the informant had the correct information.

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Re: PEMBERTON - 1853 Victoria
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 25 November 10 14:28 GMT (UK) »
Looks like Walter Pemberton was at Beechworth in 1878.

Government timber contract awarded to Walter Pemberton & William Counsell of Spring Creek Beechworth.

Victorian Government Gazette 1878 p3316

http://gazette.slv.vic.gov.au/view.cgi?year=1878&class=general&page_num=3283&state=V&classNum=G127

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Re: PEMBERTON - 1853 Victoria
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 25 November 10 14:37 GMT (UK) »
Death notice for a Mary Ann Pemberton in 1914

The Argus Saturday 17th January 1914 p13.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/7231333?

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Re: PEMBERTON - 1853 Victoria
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 25 November 10 21:44 GMT (UK) »
Death notice for a Mary Ann Pemberton in 1914

The Argus Saturday 17th January 1914 p13.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/7231333?

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This death notice refers to his death
PEMBERTON  Mary Ann died aged 64 at Beechworth
father Richard Jefferies mother Mary Ann Snow reg no 393



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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: PEMBERTON - 1853 Victoria
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 25 November 10 22:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Sorry about the wrong Pemberton error in my previous post picked up by Jenn.

The SMH for Wednesday 18th April 1923 on page 11 has 4 entries under Funerals for a Mary Ann (Anne) Pemberton of Botany Sydney.  (Probably not related to the Pembertons of Beechworth).
 
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/16073237?searchTerm="Mary%20Ann%20Pemberton"&searchLimits=

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Re: PEMBERTON - 1853 Victoria
« Reply #7 on: Friday 26 November 10 01:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi
You say you have the death of WALTER PEMBERTON and the sons sorted out and recorded.
I am assuming this to be the death of WALTER senior.

PEMBERTON, WALTER
Father, Walter
Mother, Susan BLISSETT
Aged 70
At Beewth
Year 1895 #4329

The PEMBERTON/COADE  marriage shown above by JUDITH is a puzzle.

BLANCHE COADE   Born London
To WALTER PEMBERTON  born Cornwall
Year 1874 #1463

ALSO

BLANCHE JOHN COADE born Dundee
To JOHN STEWART born  Cornwall
Year 1874 #2768

No births I can see registered to the PEMBERTON/COADE couple, BUT this death in NSW

REG. 16370 In 1961    
PEMBERTON, SYDNEY ROBERT
Father WALTER    
Mother BLANCHE    
At HAMILTON

Death of BLANCHE

STEWART, BLANCHE
Father William COADE
Mother Mary Harvey RALPH
Age 85. At WATTA
Year 1936 #18371   

 A  good many births  to STEWART/COADE starting with twins at BEECHWORTH in 1876.

I agree with JUDITH, the WALTER PEMBERTON who married ELIZABETH ANN NICHOLLS  is probably a son of WALTER Snr.  There are also other PEMBERTON’s married to MARY ANN’s of different surnames.

However in Victoria, as far as I can see, the only PEMBERTON with mother MARY …… and father WALTER was born c 1845. Here is his death.

PEMBERTON, WALTER.
Father WALTER
Mother MARY (UK)
Death Place EWICK
Aged 83
Year 1928 #5474

Perhaps you have the deaths of the sons of WALTER Snr in other Australian states showing their mother’s name.

Sue


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Re: PEMBERTON - 1853 Victoria
« Reply #8 on: Friday 26 November 10 02:12 GMT (UK) »


Wonder if this death is a possible   :-\

PIMBERTON  Mary Anne
died 1853  age 32years
Birth Place: England
Father: Unknown 
Mother: Not listed
Reg# 1765

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