Amelia Victoria SMITH (nee TIPPETT)

[ScottFive]

I am searching for any decendants of this lady - b.1869 in New South Wales, m.1889 , d.1964 in Western Australia - who may know about her HUSBAND:

Charles Smith b.1858 in Brighton England and d. 1907 in Western Australia ?

[Dundee]

Hi there,

In case you don't have it, a little round-up of the family when their daughter Linda died
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/41429012?searchTerm=%22amelia%20victoria%20smith%22&searchLimits= 
(Deaths, the last entry in the first column)

Do you have Charles' parents' names from his marriage cert?

Debra 

[Dundee]

There seems to be only one death for a Charles SMITH in 1907 in WA and he was only 23 according to cemetery records
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0aiy/

Debra

[sparrett]

SMITH, CHARLES
REG at YORK
REg no.16
Year1907

This man if he is the same one, is buried at Karrakatta and has a second given name of ROBERT.

Although AMELIA is also at KARRAKATTA, she was cremated and is not located near this CHARLES.

The three children I can see born in WA do not include a LINDA.

I do note there were more than one AMELIA VICTORIA SMITH around at the time.
Perhaps if she is theirs, she was born eleswhere.

SMITH,ROSE Father CHARLES Mother TIPPETT AMELIA VICTORIA. At SWAN. REG 4608 Yr.1899

SMITH, WILLIAM NORMAN Father CHARLES mother TIPPET AMELIA VICTORIA at   YORK REG7335 Year 1904

SMITH,   FREDERICK JAMES Father CHARLES Mother TIPPETT AMELIA VICTORIA At GREENMOUNT Reg.5228 Year1901

Sue

[sparrett]

Ah yes,
It all started in NSW
The marriage

REG2721 In1889 SMITH CHARLES
To TIPPETT AMELIA V.
At NEWTOWN


Births
REG 33108 In 1890  SMITH  ELEANOR
FatherCHARLES 
MotherAMELIA V 
SUNNY CORNER

REg 27956 In 1893  SMITH  LINDA
FtherCHARLES
Mother  AMELIA V
At ORANGE
     
REG25436 In 1895  SMITH  DAVID G
FatherCHARLES 
MotherAMELIA V
At  ORANGE   
 
REG5813 In 1897  SMITH  CHARLES O 
Father CHARLES
Mother AMELIA V
At ORANGE

Sue   

[ScottFive]

Hi Debra and Sue,

Thanks so much for your responses; some helpful info there; much appreciated.

I am trying to find anyone from the Smith/Tippett tree who knows anything about Charles Smith's life after he left Brighton (where he was born) and before he married my great grandmother Amelia. I am trying to confirm a family story that he was a musician (a lead violinist playing in Gilbert and Sullivan Productions in the 1880s) of which I have another post for:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,497083.msg3541329.html#msg3541329

Sue: is it the case that his death was REGISTERED at York, but he was buried in Karrakatta? How do you know his other name was Robert?
Debra: Yes I have his marriage certificate and parents names. But what I NEED to find out about is this story that he was a 'topnotch' violinist! (I'm working on the theory that someone in the tree must know something about his early life in Australia...)

Scott.

[Dundee]

Hi Scott,

There was a Charles Robert SMITH whose death was registered in 1907 in WA.  He was 23 years old and I gave the link to his funeral notice in my previous post; he is buried at Karrakatta cemetery.  This appeared to be the ONLY registered death for a Charles SMITH in that year, so I was just concerned that you had the incorrect year.  However on doing a wildcard search there are two - one who I assume is yours at York and Charles Robert who is indexed as Chares not Charles.  I did not think it necessary to use a wildcard when searching for a name like that, but it just goes to show that even Charles SMITH can be spelt wrong!!

Debra 

[sparrett]

Hi
We clearly have some confusions between two men here and Debra has clarified it. I will add my thoughts too.

The burial of the man at KARRAKATTA which I have transcribed below, is the man referred to in the newspaper (by the date and specific location advised in the notice.)

The cemetery has his name as with ROBERT as a second given, but the newspaper notice omits this.
The BDM index has him as Chares R Smith or East Perth aged 23.

Also on the index is CHARLES SMITH without (R) of York. Same year

I see no burial for this second man at  KARRAKATTA.

Therefore,I would think we can disregard the CHARES ROBERT and the newspaper notice as not being your man.

Do you agree ?


CHARLES ROBERT  SMITH 
Aged 23 Date    22/12/1907 Of   EAST PERTH   
Grave Location
KARRAKATTA CEMETERY   WESLEYAN   AA     0036A

http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/search.php

http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx

Debra: Yes I have his marriage certificate and parents names. But what I NEED to find out about is this story that he was a 'topnotch' violinist! (I'm working on the theory that someone in the tree must know something about his early life in Australia...)   Scottfive


ScottFive, It is possible that someone with the first hand knowledge you seeking willl turn up , but as  researchers--unrelated to your people--, we can only help by starting with what we can find on your family and, moving forward (and sideways etc.).
We hope that the path will lead to an answer.
Sue
 

[ScottFive]

Thanks again Sue and Debra for your input!
Yes, the Charles buried at York is the right one.
Eventually, I am hoping to solve this life-long family 'mystery' about what he DID when he came out to here...

Scott.