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Stumped by my granny Mary Ann McTague!
« on: Wednesday 24 November 10 18:27 GMT (UK) »
You would have thought I have enough detail on my gran to be able to find her birth certificate but no!

She was married to Charles Vaughan on 15th November 1927 with a stated age of 18. Her father is down as Patrick McTague (farmer) and her address is down as 22 Ashfield Road Ranelagh.

I've been told that her birthday was 18th Dec but even taking that with a pinch of salt I still can't find her birth registered.

Can you? ???
UK: Wilkes, Hall in Birmingham
EIRE: Vaughan, McTague in Dublin (for now)

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Re: Stumped by my granny Mary Ann McTague!
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 November 10 18:34 GMT (UK) »
do you know where Mary Ann was born ?

I dont think there would have been many farmers in Ranelagh at that time, so I'd suspect Mary Ann was living away from home..

Thom's '27 shows that Ashfield Rd address as Miss Kirwan


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Re: Stumped by my granny Mary Ann McTague!
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 November 10 18:42 GMT (UK) »
one possible census match in Co. Leitrim :

  McTague family, Townland of Drumcroman

Father is Patrick, a farmer, and there is a daughter named Mary Ann age 3 months, so would been born around December 1910


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Re: Stumped by my granny Mary Ann McTague!
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 November 10 18:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Shane,

   I'm afraid I don't know where she was born. I have been told that there are Gafneys in her family but my family are light on facts  ;D . I did look on the 1911 census and could only find a Patrick & Mary Ann McTague in Leitrim so I don't know if that is her.

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UK: Wilkes, Hall in Birmingham
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Re: Stumped by my granny Mary Ann McTague!
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 November 10 19:42 GMT (UK) »
 Mary Anne McTague Reg dist Bawnboy birth Jan - Mar 1911 Volume 3 Page No. 35
cavan or leitrim
if born december 1910 she was possibly reg after christmass 1911 ?

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Re: Stumped by my granny Mary Ann McTague!
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 November 10 19:58 GMT (UK) »
if Mary Ann was registered a few weeks after her birth it would be indexed under Jan-Mar 1911, although the date of birth could still be Dec 1910..

I wonder if Mary Ann's mother Maria on that census might be a Gaffney ?...  I know the surname was quite common around Cavan & Leitrim


p.s. I just checked SeanRuad and the townland of Drumcroman is in the Registration district of    Bawnboy.. so that birth does seem to match up with the 1911 census


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Re: Stumped by my granny Mary Ann McTague!
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 November 10 20:14 GMT (UK) »
Whoops ! no wonder i failed me maths  ;D
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Re: Stumped by my granny Mary Ann McTague!
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 25 November 10 21:50 GMT (UK) »
On family search A Patrick McTague married a Maria Gaffney in 1906 in Manhattan New York. could that be your Mary Anne 's parents? http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#marriageYear=1905&givenName=Patrick&searchType=close&surname=McTague&p=recordResults

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Re: Stumped by my granny Mary Ann McTague!
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 27 November 10 11:07 GMT (UK) »
if Mary Ann was registered a few weeks after her birth it would be indexed under Jan-Mar 1911, although the date of birth could still be Dec 1910..

I wonder if Mary Ann's mother Maria on that census might be a Gaffney ?...  I know the surname was quite common around Cavan & Leitrim


p.s. I just checked SeanRuad and the townland of Drumcroman is in the Registration district of    Bawnboy.. so that birth does seem to match up with the 1911 census


Shane

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you all but rather annoyingly 'work' has been getting in the way of my family research!

I think you may have her there Shane. I've looked at the 1901 census and there is a Maria Gaffney living in Cloverhill Leitrim aged 16 so that ties in with the family info

http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Leitrim/Cloverhill/Curraghnawall/1481697/


The one thing that had me flummoxed was not being able to find the marriage record to confirm that Maria McTague was nee Gaffney.

culbaire: When I first read your reply I dismissed it completely, I mean how could a farmer afford to go to New York to be married? They both appear to be living in Ireland in 1901 and 1911. But the information on the marriage record does seem to be a good match. The brides mothers name is Maggie and that ties in the 1901 census. Likewise the grooms father name of Michael matches the 1901 census plus it would explain why I can't find an Irish record. But for the life of me I can't work out how they would have got there ... well that's not true as I know there was a lot of emmigration so I guess I am puzzled by how and why they came back!

UK: Wilkes, Hall in Birmingham
EIRE: Vaughan, McTague in Dublin (for now)