Family name YOUNG, Northumberland?

[toni*]

A few things the death I found earlier
‘JOhn T Young in Hexham in 1931 aged 38 Vol: 10b P: 424 ’
Looks fairly reasonable to be your John

can you post details here of the family in 1911 ?

This is what John belonged to, you would assume the 4th Battalion from the list below TNA (The National Archives) will most probably have records as it was a reserve force I do not know if there are records at the IWM (Imperial Warm Museum)  :
In 1908 a reorganisation of reserve forces was carried out under the Territorial and Reserve Forces Act 1907. The militia were transferred to a new "Special Reserve" while the Volunteer Force was reorganised to become the Territorial Force. The "Volunteer Battalion" designation was discarded, and territorial battalions were numbered on after those of the regular army and special reserve. The new organisation was thus:[6]
•   1st Battalion
•   2nd Battalion
•   3rd Battalion (Special Reserve)
•   4th Battalion (T.F.) (HQ Hexham, from bulk of 1st V.B.)
•   5th Battalion (T.F.) (HQ Walker, redesignation of 2nd V.B.)
•   6th (City) Battalion (T.F.) (HQ Newcastle, redesignation of 3rd V.B.)
•   7th Battalion (T.F.) (HQ Alnwick, from part of 1st V.B.)
•   8th (Cyclist) Battalion (formed 1908, redesignated Northern Cyclist Battalion 1910 and transferred to Army Cyclist Corps 1915)
I have possibly found Rachel in 1901 although her age is out slightly
23 Old Broad Quarter Caldegate Carlisle Cumberland
George Miller head 44 hawker b. Carlisle
Mary J wife 39 b. Brampton
Richard 17 son  hawk (this has been added to the original census page) b. Carlisle
John W 12  b. do
George H 10 b. do.
Elizabeth 7 b. do.
Rachel 6 b. do.
Isaac 2 b. do.

[youngjo]

Hi Toni

The death record for John does seem correct as he did die very young.

As for details of the family in 1911, I dont have any.
I have very little knowledge of the Armed Forces atc so that explanation was brilliant. It seems like he was in the battalion based in Hexham.

That does seem like Rachel, as you say the age may be a bit out! Thats great that you found that! Is there any record for John T for 1892 approx?

This is very helpful, you are a wealth of knowledge!!! Unlike myself.....

Where do i go from here?

j

[toni*]

it is possible that John served in the Boer war - the regiment he was with did

i cant see a birth for rachel in HExham  so the Carlisle option in 1901 looks reasonable

however
this looskto be John Thomas birth registration

you coudl order this from the GRO
this will tel you the obvious d.o.b p.o.b and parents names even his mothers maiden name

 

Births Dec 1891   
Young  John Thomas    Hexham  10b 332

[toni*]

On second thoughts John couldn’t have served in the Boer war as he would have been only just 10 so he should appear on the 1901 census somewhere

[toni*]

i've found him in 1901 woo hoo

RG13;  4824;  100;  11.
14 Eilans gate ?
William Young 37 head peddlar b. Hexham
Elizabeth Young 32 wife b. Alnwick
Frank Young 16 son masons labourer b. Hexham
Joseph Young 11 son b. do.
John Thos Young 9 son b. do.
Margt Eliz Young 7 dau b. do.
Elizabeth Young 1 dau b. do.


next door are anotherr Young family will post details in a minute
 

[toni*]

next door to JT in 1901 surely related

Frank Young head 33 Peddlar b. hexham
mary wife b. Elsdon
all children b, Hexham
Matilda 13
Mary 12
Kitty 10
William 8
Thomas 6
Margaret J 4
Frank 1 month

Added
In fact they don’t live next door theya re also at no. 14 but are in a separate household

[toni*]

now we are getting somewhere 

1891 for William & co.
Elizabeth would have been pregnant with JT at this time

William Young 28 peddlar
Elizabeth  24 wife b. Alnwick
Francis  6 son scholar
William  4 son
Joseph  4 son (he could possibly be 2 ?)
Cuthbert Steward 14 brother in law working in garden
 
: RG12;  4247;  64; 14

so although they were Hawkers / peddlars they didnt actually travel around like gypsies


Frank  & Mary are also there

Frank 24 Peddlar
Mary wife 22
Matilda dau 4
Mary dau 2
Cathering dau 4 months
and another Young family

Foundry lane Hexham

all born Hexham unless stated otherwise
William Young head 67 peddlar
Catherine wife 52
George son 22 Hawker
Matilda dau. 17 do.
Peggy dau. 15 do.
Jane 9 dau. Scholar
John grandson 3

[toni*]

1881 for William snr. who now appears to be Williams father so your line goes William your grandfather, John Thomas his father William his father and William his father 

William  48 hawker
Catherine  40 wife
William  18 son
Thos.  16 son
Francis  14 son
George  11 son
Matilda  7 dau
Margt.  4 dau
  RG11;  5104; 13;  17
Foundry Lane Hexham

the 1881 census is free to view and from there you can see there are other Young familes on the same page who i would assume are related to yours
(i know you shouldnt assume anything but i feel pretty certain they are)

Thomas Young head mar. 33 hawker b. Hexham
margaret 30 b. Hallington Coquet
Isabelle 14 neice b. Stanley Durham
George son 5 b. Hexham
Thomas son 4 b. do.

next household

Francis head mar 26 Hawker b. new york Durham
annie wife b. Scotland
Elizabeth dau scholar b. Hill Top Durham
Francis son b. Durnell Durham

followed by your Williams household 

here is William (JT father) marriage to Elizabeth Stewart
Marriages Sep 1884   Hexham  10b 373 
 Coates  William     
Moorhead  Margaret     
Stewart  Elizabeth       
Young  William     

[toni*]

in 1871 we have William & Catherine again
this time in the yards at Glovers Place Hexham

William head mar 36 Hawker b. Heddon
Catherine wife 28 b. Slatey
William son 7 b. Blanchford
Thomas son 5 b. Hexham
Francis son 3 b. do
George son 1 b. do
Mary Bennett 15 domestic servant b. Beddington

 RG10;  5145; 93;  13