St Anthonys, Walkers, Newcastle Upon Tyne

[John G.]

Dear Michael,

Sorry to say Genuki is wrong, I have copy of Deeds & other records  that state Manor or Lordship of Walker. Never a Township.

The definition of "Parish" Subdivision of Diocese, having it's own church and clergyman". So once Walker got it's own Church & Clergyman it was no longer part of Longbenton Parish. And Longbenton Parish no longer went to the River Tyne from 1848.

As for BDMs, I said pertaining to Walker. I never mentioned other parts Longbenton BDMS. Under Civil Registration  states the area is divided between North Tyneside & Newcastle Registration Districts.

Of course, if you were checking for BDM in the GRO, Walker would be listed under Tynemouth. And if you applied for certificate from Southport, you would state that. But if you wanted to get the certificate personally. Then you will go to the Civic Centre, Newcastle.

John G.
Walker, Newcastle upon Tyne

[Michael Dixon]

John,

Just another couple of angles where Walker and Longbenton are linked ( I know nothing about " ownership")

If one was looking for someone in Walker on the 1851 Census, one short-cut would be to locate the series of Surname Indexes Booklets, published by the Northumberland and Durham Family History Society ( I use the set in Blyth Library... there is also one in Newcastle City Library, second floor, and also in Tyne & Wear Archives, Blandford Square) ... and find the listing of the target together with the census ref number to enable a quick look-up of the appropriate census page....

But there are about 50 different booklets for Northumberland... and in which one would Walker folk appear ?... the Longbenton Booklet, alongside folk from Weetslade, Killingworth and Longbenton itself.

On to the 1881 Census... if I was looking on FamilySearch for say Allan and Catherine Mc Lean, whose youngest , Hugh was born in Walker in Feb 1881,  in Fisher Street, close to Hunter's Tile Sheds, I would fairly easily find the household, but I would be puzzled as Walker does not figure in the census address, but Longbenton does.

In fact if I used the pull -down menu on the search page, for all the places in Northumberland, Walker is just not listed.


So even up to 1881, Longbenton has some connection to Walker.

Even my home town Blyth the biggest around that area by far, did not rate on 1881 or even on 1901 as a census place , a bit of it  referred to as Cowpen, another as Horton and another as Newsham.

Michael Dixon

[John G.]

Dear Michael,

You are splitting hairs on the 1851 Index books. Check the actual 1851 Census of Walker, and it has Ecclesiastical District Walker. Village of Walker Iron Works & Wincomblee, Walker Oil Mill & Low Walker.
1861 Census no mention of Longbenton except the Registrar Sub District. Village-Walker
1871 Census is the same 1861.
1891 Census.-Walker

As for the 1881 Census are you saying that Walker does not exist. Check the Actual 1881 census Records it definitely does.

The only connection of Longbenton to Walker after 1848 is the Registrar's Sub District.

All Leases were issued by Newcastle Corporation from 1723, even when Walker was in the parish of Longbenton & still issued Leases after Walker became a parish in it's right. Lonbenton had no jurisdiction over Walker affairs, except in the Church prior to 1848.

Check St. Batholomew's, Longbenton, and where a baptism or death occurred it gives an area or address & it mentions Walker, not Longbenton.  Example; Sharpers House Farm, Walker.

I think enough has been said on this matter, as it looks you will not accept what I have been trying to explain to you. So be it.

But I live in Walker, Newcastle upon Tyne. Not Longbenton.

[walkerlad]

hello there.
i live in the walker area, just up the road from all the churches mentioned, i can confirm that:

st anthonys of padua is still there ( catholic)

st anthonys of egypt is still there ( c of e) mother was married there and she is not catholic.

the lord raglan pub was demolished easily 10 years ago.

there is also  christ church (walker parish church) in walker and that is c of e.
i hope this helps
regards
michael

[mh_deadwoods]

Hi. Sorry to dredge up an old post... 

Hello Claire

There are two churches of St Anthony in the Walker/St Anthony's area of Newcastle upon Tyne:

1.  St Anthony of Egypt (Church of England), Belmont Street.  This is near Pottery Bank;

2.  St Anthony of Padua (Roman Catholic), Church Street/Welbeck Road.

Wallsend is a different town, adjoining Walker and is part of North Tyneside MBC.

Hope this helps.

Regards

Rob

I also have a 1866 marriage cert listing "Married in the Saint Anthonys Catholic Church Walker" for Patrick KEIRVEN and Margaret TOBAN. Both were irish catholics. So I'm assuming that this is the (grey stone) St Anthony of Padua on Welbeck Rd, not the (red brick) St Anthony of Egypt way down in Pottery Bank. I can't find the Victoria St they lived on just after the marriage, but in 1991 they were over in Fisher St.

[hanger312]

St Anthony of Padua Roman Catholic Church is addressed as Church Street, Walker, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE6 3BT. Put NE6 3BT in google maps and it's there.
Also visit www.stapca.org.uk for the Community Association's website.
We are celebrating 150 years this year.

Longbenton was the original eccliastical district as the church and Walker was nothing but farmland before mining and other industries began pre 1840's.

Most older records of BDM were registered in the Tynemouth registry. IF you were born in 1900 this is the registry you would see the name against. Although copies are available from National sources they are most likely found in the current district office of North Shields. The Stag line building on Howard Street. This is where I registered my Mother's Death although I reside in Wallsend.

[AngelFish]

Thank you both very much for your replies.

[hanger312]

Sorry the link I posted was wrong.

It is www.stapca.co.uk

[tarot]

Hi Slogger,

Thanks for your post, it is helpful. 

My Gran also has talked about Pottery Bank.  There was a pub there called the Lord Raglin Inn, she said it was still there in the 1970's put I haven't found any trace of it on the www.

Claire

The Pub was called The Lord Raglan but was commonly known as The Bank my father drank there for years.