Jane Hambley or LLoyd

[Rhillip]

I am looking for the birth or chtistening on Jane in the county of Gloucester in 1831 can anyone help as my head hurts.

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[Arranroots]

Hi Rhillip and welcome! 

What else do you know about Jane - why the choice of surnames?

Did she survive?  Do you have a marriage certificate or any census with her on?  Any of these might help pin her down.

Kind regards, Arranroots 

[Tati]

Sorry for echo, Arranroots!

Welcome to RootsChat Rhillip 

Tell us more! Why 2 surnames? What else do you know about her?

Is your starting point this marriage?

Dec 1853 Abergavenny 11a 122
Jane Hambley, Jane Lloyd, Philip Parson, Thomas Prosser

Who did your Jane marry?

(A very quick census search finds this girl - just a guess, really!

1851
HO107/2448 821  8
Tredegar, Bedwellty
173, River Row
John Hamly, head,wid, 60, Engine Fitter, b. Cornwall
Jane, dau, unm, 20, b. Bristol
Alfred, son, 14, Collier, b. do.
Francis Thomas, grandson, 11 mo, b. Bedwelty
George Sockett, son in law, mar, 22, Moulder, b. France
Margt Sockett, wife, 29 (or 24), b. Bristol
John Sockett, son, 1, b. Glamorgan )

[Rhillip]

She married a Phillip Parsons in December 1853 in Abergavenny. He married in December 1853 a Jane Hambley and a Jane Lloyd, there was only 1 entry for a Phillip Parson on that period, all covered by the same folio number in Abergavenny. Jane had a son Francis born 1851 it would appear by the 1861 census that he was classed as son not step son to Phillip and they moved to Middlesbrough between 1853 and 1856 by the ages of subsequent children on the same census. This is why my head hurts, help please

[Rhillip]

As a footnote the duplicate you will notice is 1 for Gloucester and 1 for Somerset as the 1861 census says Somerset and 1881 says Gloucester and they are missed from 1851 census

[Tati]

I'd say the 10 year old son Francis could well be the 11 months old Francis Thomas shown in the 1851 census above (birth registration Frances Thomas Hambley Hambley, Mar 1851 Abergavenny 26 40)

Obviously, it would be safer for you to purchase Philips marriage cert, or one of the children's birth certs, to check which Jane we're looking for.  

[Tati]

they are missed from 1851 census

Just in case you don't have it, unmarried Phillip is lodging at HO107/2490 394 48 in 1851. 

[Rhillip]

Sorry Tati the missing census was 1871.

[Tati]

They're there, possibly slightly mistranscribed as Purssuns, in Ormesby
RG10/4856 29 51