McLaren/MacLaren/macleran

[Shailee]

Hate to be bothersome but could you explain the below a little bit more as it is confusing me as I am still learning new things within Scottish research and understanding these type of this would be great as I got confused on this part and understanding it all on all teh numbers I can see most are death dates? but the added number on the end?

68   Donald FISHER fr Borlick 1.1811 88, s Donald 23.5.1810 65 (w Ann FISHER 29.3.1829 73, chn:  Alex fr  Borlick 19.10.1853, Donald fr Tuttich 27.6.1861 71 (da Margt 11.1851  16), John fr Gartenkeir 6.1.1865 77 (w Janet McKinlay d Jellyholm 25.12.1888 86, s Donald fr  Jellyholm Alloa d Thornton Mains Midlothian 24.11.1900 75), Christian d Borlick 25.1.1875 77, Peter surgeon RN d Borlick 19.2.1877 84).
Wm FISHER land agent Wentworth Castle Yorkshire 1.11.1914 73 int silkstone. Thos FISHER factor Whitehill Midlothian 12.8.1921 83 int Carrington, s of John FISHER & Janet McKINLAY.

Hi All

Fisher’s listed in MI book for Little Dunkeld

42a Daniel FISHER hotel keeper Dunkeld 8.3.1850 63. w Eliz MacLAREN 12.11.1857  63, das: Magdaline 16.8.1822 2y & Cath 16.2.1850 33

42b  by Donald Fisher Pitlochry d Forres 12.6.1903  78 w Mary GRANT 9.11.1888 56, etcetera


43 Alex Fisher , Royal Hotel Dunkeld, w Jane Isabella CONACHER 17.10.1867 35, s Alex  b Dunkeld 18[5 or 6]0  d Ottawa 19.1.1912 int Beechwood cem there.


68   Donald FISHER fr Borlick 1.1811 88, s Donald 23.5.1810 65 (w Ann FISHER 29.3.1829 73, chn:  Alex fr  Borlick 19.10.1853, Donald fr Tuttich 27.6.1861 71 (da Margt 11.1851  16), John fr Gartenkeir 6.1.1865 77 (w Janet McKinlay d Jellyholm 25.12.1888 86, s Donald fr  Jellyholm Alloa d Thornton Mains Midlothian 24.11.1900 75), Christian d Borlick 25.1.1875 77, Peter surgeon RN d Borlick 19.2.1877 84).
Wm FISHER land agent Wentworth Castle Yorkshire 1.11.1914 73 int silkstone. Thos FISHER factor Whitehill Midlothian 12.8.1921 83 int Carrington, s of John FISHER & Janet McKINLAY.

The above was taken from North Perthshire MI Book Edited by Alison Mitchell.

Yours Aye
BruceL

[bleckie]

Hi The numbers at the front are used as an index the numbers after date relate to the age of the deceased.

Yours Aye
BruceL

[Shailee]

Thanks,

So assuming right

the from 68 part is the father of Daniel Fisher? Im trying to piece this part how it works who is who to who as these names I havent seen before within my tree

Sorry to be a nuisance about this

[Shailee]

UPDATE since First post I have much more info since

Reverend John MacLaren was born at Tomnanean, Glenfernate, Strathardle, Perthshire

His father Donald MacLaren was a First-Rate Judge of Stock, a small farmer though

For a good read about the Reverend there is a booklet available that was published in 1924 by his daughter Marjory MacLaren titled "Unrecorded Echoes of Recorded Lives in Aberfeldy" I have a copy of anyone is interested in reading it. @davidoflincs much is said about the church if that interests you I also have a copy of Daniel/Donald Fishers will

Further more regarding Reverend John MacLarens Mother in law named Elizabeth MacLaren she was the daughter of John MacLaren and Elisabeth McGlashan her father was a Sherriff Officer as per stated on her stats death and her brother John MacLaren a Hotel Keeper according to census both John and Elisabeth were born in Dunkeldthe Hotel that it states on John Stat Death is Royal Hotel on census it states 11 high street in google maps I see the same named Hotel a few doors down on the cross street Im only assuming at this point that was the hotel he ran and address has changed over time?

John died 1870 in Blairgowie
Elisabeth died 1857 in Little Dunkeld

Parents have not found their deaths or any documentation on them as yet 


regarding Reverend John MacLarens parents I was suggested that maybe his father remarried as there is a Marjory Robertson that married a Donald McLaren near his birth year a path I havent taken yet to investigate


Cant think of anything else to add for now but I have made alot of progress in small pieces of info since my first post many moons ago!

[DavidofLincs]

Hi again Simone,

Good to know that you have been making progress.  I am intrigued that you refer to that 1924 booklet by the daughter of the Rev MacLaren on "Unrecorded echoes of recorded lives in Aberfeldy".
I've noticed it mentioned in a bibliography, but have never actually seen a copy, so I would be  interested to know what it was all about.

One question you may have found the answer to - what years did the Rev McLaren serve as Minister of the Independent Church in Aberfeldy?  I think you said he was there for 34 years.

Regards,

David.

[ampthillmark]

Hello. I have been going through some suitcases of old photos and letters over the last five years and have eventually read through a packet of letters written by Marjory McLaren in 1929/30 to my Great grandmother. She recalls having to help out at the fisher's hotels at short notice in both Dunkeld and Pitlochry amongst other recollections of her Fisher aunts and uncles, her nieces and nephews from Australia.

They, Marjory and my great grandmother, were trying to find the family connection between the McLarens and the Forbes family and they seemingly never made the connection. Their families had been friends for many years.

 I have now found a Cecilia McLaren who I am trying to link with the McLarens in this thread if anyone can help that would be great! My guess is that she was born around 1760-65.

Cecilia was the wife of Robert Forbes and they lived (and presumably worked) in the model weaving village of Spittlefield between Dunkeld and  Blairgowrie.  They had 3 children there between 1785 and 90, followed by 3 more in other places.

[Shailee]

Hello. I have been going through some suitcases of old photos and letters over the last five years and have eventually read through a packet of letters written by Marjory McLaren in 1929/30 to my Great grandmother. She recalls having to help out at the fisher's hotels at short notice in both Dunkeld and Pitlochry amongst other recollections of her Fisher aunts and uncles, her nieces and nephews from Australia.

They, Marjory and my great grandmother, were trying to find the family connection between the McLarens and the Forbes family and they seemingly never made the connection. Their families had been friends for many years.

 I have now found a Cecilia McLaren who I am trying to link with the McLarens in this thread if anyone can help that would be great! My guess is that she was born around 1760-65.

Cecilia was the wife of Robert Forbes and they lived (and presumably worked) in the model weaving village of Spittlefield between Dunkeld and  Blairgowrie.  They had 3 children there between 1785 and 90, followed by 3 more in other places.

Hi Mark

Im assuming you are related to Marjory

The Forbes history is all very new to me I never knew of this but I did find Marjory death notice and found a oddity of American Papers were requested to copy (Australia I could understand being where her brothers family was) as I found no other connections of cousins or siblings for the Reverend John macLaren her father

would you like my email let me know and I shall msg you it privately

Regards Simone

PS you dont happen to have a picture of Marorys brother John Donald McLaren do you ?

[ampthillmark]

Hi Simone.

I am a Forbes descendant but remember my grandmother relating the story of her mother's long friendship with Marjory. Having found and read these letters, I thought it would be good to make the linkage but have not made a definitive link yet.  I do not have a photo of John Donald, only one of a youngish Marjory that was in my great grandmothers possessions.

The letters are quite interesting and cover quite a lot of family relationships, with the Fishers mostly but some discussion of the Australian family. One Australian niece came over to be her companion for several years and two nephews came to stay on leave from WWI in Belgium.

I would be interested in sharing more with you so yes please let's exchange email addresses

Yours,

Mark

[Shailee]

Hi Simone.

I am a Forbes descendant but remember my grandmother relating the story of her mother's long friendship with Marjory. Having found and read these letters, I thought it would be good to make the linkage but have not made a definitive link yet.  I do not have a photo of John Donald, only one of a youngish Marjory that was in my great grandmothers possessions.

The letters are quite interesting and cover quite a lot of family relationships, with the Fishers mostly but some discussion of the Australian family. One Australian niece came over to be her companion for several years and two nephews came to stay on leave from WWI in Belgium.

I would be interested in sharing more with you so yes please let's exchange email addresses

Yours,

Mark

Private messaged you my email Mark

Im very excited to hear about this all!