McLaren/MacLaren/macleran

[Shailee]

Hi,

Very new to these boards so please I apologize If I have placed this in the wrong area.

Im rather grasping at straws now trying to find someone that may be researching the same McLarens as myself as there isnt many lines to even stem from.

Father:
Donald MacLaren b mid 1700's??? d.

Mother:
Marjory Gray b. 1776 Moulin d.?
daughter of Angus Gray and Isobel Small.

Child of above couple:-
Reverend John MacLaren
b.abt 1801 Moulin
d.1889 Dull, Aberfeldy buried Kenmore Cemetery
Served at Independent Church of Aberfeldy for 34 years and other stations also

m. Elisabeth Fisher in 1840 Dull. -----her mother was Elisabeth Macleran
b. 1818 Dunkeld
d.1895

Rev. and Elisabeth had 3 children

Elisabeth
b.1842 - d. 1921 -------Never married nor had children

John Donald
b. 1844 Aberfeldy - d. 1912 New South Wales, Australia

Marjory
b. 1847 - d.1930---- Never married or had children also

Ive traced all children on census stayed at that same place most of their life in their parents home called Joy Cottage aka 47 Kenmore St aka Indpt Square Aberfeldy also.

I have most records from OPR to Stat Records, I just want to find someone else who is researching the same family in this early time era to join works or find extra information about the Rev his parents Donald and Marjory as I never found their births marriage or deaths.

Or even Revs mother in law Elisabeth Macleran

Anyone out there that has something that may interest me they have on this family or a connection back in Scotland?

Simone

[DavidofLincs]

Simone,

I have no connection with your family, but I was interested in your references to the Independent (or Congregational) Church of Aberfeldy.   The first minister of the Congregational Church was Dr James Kennedy who acquired a house in The Square in 1810, and there is a sketch of this building in Dr Mackay's book entitled Aberfeldy Past and Present.  Initially, the congregation had to meet in a ground floor room of this house, until a new chapel was built nearby in 1820, after which the house in the Square continued to serve as the manse for over 50 years.  However, in 1877 work was started on building a new church on the site of the manse, and for 30 years the ministers of the Independent Church had no 'official' residence until a new manse was acquired on Kenmore Street.

I mention this because I think you will find that the addresses on the Censuses you mention are not necessarily the same building.  Certainly 47 Kenmore Street is not the same as The Square Aberfeldy.  I don't know about Joy Cottage.  Perhaps the Rev John went to Aberfeldy while there was still a manse in The Square, and then had to move elsewhere when the new church was built in 1877?

David.

[Shailee]

Since this last post I had a lovely lady from this area helping me fill in alot of gaps now

Joy Cottage was in fact St Ivy Cottage on Kenmore St/Rd 

The Old Congregational Church that the Reverend John McLaren served in is now today the Tourist office.

Reverend John McLaren's wife Elizabeth Fisher came from a well known North Perthshire Family of
Hoteliers.
Her father had the Royal Hotel in Dunkeld. Her brother Donald had Fisher's
Hotel here in Pitlochry from 1853 Another brother John had the Bridge of
Tilt Hotel in Blair Atholl and yet another brother had a hotel in Braemar.
Fisher's Hotel is still well known in Pitlochry, indeed throughout Scotland

Elizabeth Fishers mother was a Elizabeth McLaren her father Donald/Daniel Fisher

Elizabeth Fisher Nee McLaren died 12 Nov 1857 she is the daughter of a John McLaren and a Elizabeth McGlashan

As of now Im still searching for anyone that is from either of these McLaren lines

Donald McLaren and Marjory Gray
their son Rev. John Mclaren born approx 1801 Moulin whom married Elizabeth Fisher daughter of below Elizabeth Fisher/McLaren

or Rev. mother in law McLaren side

John McLaren and Elizabeth McGlashan
their daughter Elizabeth McLaren whom married Donald/Daniel Fisher

[DavidofLincs]

Hi Shailee,

Your references to the Fisher family are interesting.   I am researching Fisher's Hotel in Pitlochry, and would be interested to know where you found out that Donald Fisher had the hotel from 1853.  From reading Colin Liddell's recent book on the history of Pitlochry, I thought that it would have been in the 1860s when Donald Fisher took over.

David.

[Shailee]

Im still very new to this board unsure if I can paste links here but google Daniel Fisher Royal Dunkeld Hotel and also I have a scan from Little Dunkeld Cemetery Inscriptions with references to Fishers and Royal Hotel and names confirming alot I had , I am also on a____y.com as I have uploaded pieces this lady has helped me with as she lives within the district but I never thought of looking at Donald as Daniel from what she has told me Donald's were also known as Daniel too

Also on Ebooks or search university of California Library and find the book Shorthorns Central and Southern Scotland Chapter 2 I think it was pages 22-27 reference to the Fishers and the Hotel and also of Shorthorns kept on one of Donald Fisher Jrs brothers hotel

If you can send me a PM with a email address I can send you a scan of the cemetery index and I also traced Donald Fisher Jr of Fishers Hotel (still standing today) his stats death I was sent Ive went ahead and bought Elizabeth Fisher (Nee McLaren's) wife of Donald/Daniel Fisher Sr

Donald Fisher you are talking about from Fishers Hotel is the son of
Donald/Daniel Fisher and Elizabeth McLaren-----also my gx5 gparents

Donald Fisher Jr married Mary Grant daughter of Robert Grant and Mary Martin her death stat also stated her father was a Hotel Keeper- dont know where or when?

He ran the Fishers Hotel his father had the Royal Hotel in Pitlochry whom also had Robert Louis Stephenson as a guest for approx 2 years while Roberts cottage was being built in Pitlochry

on every census I have found so far from 1851-1891 Donald was a Hotel Keeper

1851- Civil Parish: Caputh Town: City of Dunkeld County: Perthshire Address: Atholl Street Occupation: Hotel Keeper
with his sister Cecelia Fisher

1861- Registration district: Moulin Civil Parish: Moulin County: Perthshire Address: Perth & Inverness Rd Occupation: Hotel Hagn 25 & Farmer 130 Acres Employing 6 Acres & 2 Lab

He has my gx3gfather with him here when he is 16yo John Donald McLaren his sister Elizabeth McLaren (Fisher) son


1871 - Civil Parish: Moulin County: Perthshire Address: Inverness Road Rergal Hotel Occupation: Hotel Keepert Farmer 7 Acres 550 Arable Employing

1881 - Civil Parish: Moulin County: Perthshire Address: Inverness Road Hotel Occupation: Hotel Propr & Farmer 200 Acres 120 Arable Employing 8 Men 6 Women


Do you also have a connection to these Fishers?

[Shailee]

Hopefully I dont get banned for puttinga  link in but found the 1853 reference on this site

http://www.fishershotelpitlochry.com/Fishers_Hotel_History.php

Hi Shailee,

Your references to the Fisher family are interesting.   I am researching Fisher's Hotel in Pitlochry, and would be interested to know where you found out that Donald Fisher had the hotel from 1853.  From reading Colin Liddell's recent book on the history of Pitlochry, I thought that it would have been in the 1860s when Donald Fisher took over.

David.

[Shailee]

in the Book Shorthorns of Central and Southern Scotland by James Cameron it also refers to 1853 also

Hi Shailee,

Your references to the Fisher family are interesting.   I am researching Fisher's Hotel in Pitlochry, and would be interested to know where you found out that Donald Fisher had the hotel from 1853.  From reading Colin Liddell's recent book on the history of Pitlochry, I thought that it would have been in the 1860s when Donald Fisher took over.

David.

[Shailee]

this link leads you to read the book online go to page 24 near the bottom

http://www.onread.com/fbreader/51378

Hi Shailee,

Your references to the Fisher family are interesting.   I am researching Fisher's Hotel in Pitlochry, and would be interested to know where you found out that Donald Fisher had the hotel from 1853.  From reading Colin Liddell's recent book on the history of Pitlochry, I thought that it would have been in the 1860s when Donald Fisher took over.

David.

[bleckie]

Hi All

Fisher’s listed in MI book for Little Dunkeld

42a Daniel FISHER hotel keeper Dunkeld 8.3.1850 63. w Eliz MacLAREN 12.11.1857  63, das: Magdaline 16.8.1822 2y & Cath 16.2.1850 33

42b  by Donald Fisher Pitlochry d Forres 12.6.1903  78 w Mary GRANT 9.11.1888 56, etcetera


43 Alex Fisher , Royal Hotel Dunkeld, w Jane Isabella CONACHER 17.10.1867 35, s Alex  b Dunkeld 18[5 or 6]0  d Ottawa 19.1.1912 int Beechwood cem there.


68   Donald FISHER fr Borlick 1.1811 88, s Donald 23.5.1810 65 (w Ann FISHER 29.3.1829 73, chn:  Alex fr  Borlick 19.10.1853, Donald fr Tuttich 27.6.1861 71 (da Margt 11.1851  16), John fr Gartenkeir 6.1.1865 77 (w Janet McKinlay d Jellyholm 25.12.1888 86, s Donald fr  Jellyholm Alloa d Thornton Mains Midlothian 24.11.1900 75), Christian d Borlick 25.1.1875 77, Peter surgeon RN d Borlick 19.2.1877 84).
Wm FISHER land agent Wentworth Castle Yorkshire 1.11.1914 73 int silkstone. Thos FISHER factor Whitehill Midlothian 12.8.1921 83 int Carrington, s of John FISHER & Janet McKINLAY.

The above was taken from North Perthshire MI Book Edited by Alison Mitchell.

Yours Aye
BruceL