Author Topic: What's the name?  (Read 1928 times)

Offline Craig M

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 32
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
What's the name?
« on: Friday 19 November 10 15:15 GMT (UK) »
This is part of a will dated 1720.

What is the word after daughter?

Thanks

Offline patrexjax

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,653
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What's the name?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 19 November 10 15:20 GMT (UK) »
Possibly......."of" .....   Pat
ARCHIBALD/ARCHBALD: Tweedmouth, NBL; CHARLTON: Ponteland, NBL;
ERRINGTON: West Denton, NBL; 
FAIRLESS: Longbenton, NBL;
HARDING: Hollinside, Co. Durham;
KING: Newcastle-on-Tyne & Berwickshire;
LOCKEY: Ryton, Whickham, Co. Durham & YKS; NICHOLSON: Ponteland, Newburn, NBL; PAXTON: Norham, NBL;
PAULIN: Berwickshire; REAY, Ponteland, NBL;
SCOTT: Norham, NBL; SELBY: Tweedmouth, NBL;
SLIGH: Berwickshire; SPOOR: Whickham & Ryton;
WIDDRINGTON: NBL

Offline Seoras

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,235
  • GG gf Robert. Born Ireland 1865. Died USA 1941.
    • View Profile
Re: What's the name?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 November 10 16:57 GMT (UK) »
Can you show a bit more of it so we can see it in context to the rest of the sentance.

George.
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth

Offline Hephzibah

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 456
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What's the name?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 19 November 10 17:48 GMT (UK) »
daughter of Kateran?
Please would you show it not so enlarged - the start of the word is all pixilated (is that the right word?)
Thanks
Hephzibah
PENDAL & variants: Suffolk; Bardwell, Tannington, Weybread, Dennington & Worlingworth
ELLINOR: Suffolk; Redgrave/ Gislingham.
GRAYSTON: Suffolk; Ipswich.
GIRLING: Suffolk; Stradbroke/Ipswich
HAWES: Suffolk; Harkstead/Holbrook/Capel St Mary/Ipswich
BECK: Co Durham; Chopwell & Northumberland; Newcastle upon Tyne.
MILLER: Cumberland; Mawbray/Hayrigg/ Silloth.
FAIRLAM: Co Durham; Allendale Cottages, Low Westwood, Milkwell Burn.
WESTGARTH: Co Durham; Bishop Auckland


Offline esdel

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 701
    • View Profile
Re: What's the name?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 19 November 10 18:05 GMT (UK) »
This is part of a will dated 1720.

What is the word after daughter?

Thanks

of Cateran

esdel
Bouch, Say, Marshall, Sproule, Turnbull,  Newby, Rouse, Curwen. Birdhope Craig

Offline Craig M

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 32
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What's the name?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 19 November 10 18:39 GMT (UK) »
The full doc for context.

Offline Hephzibah

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 456
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What's the name?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 19 November 10 19:03 GMT (UK) »
Agree with Esdel it's Cateran
Hephzibah
PENDAL & variants: Suffolk; Bardwell, Tannington, Weybread, Dennington & Worlingworth
ELLINOR: Suffolk; Redgrave/ Gislingham.
GRAYSTON: Suffolk; Ipswich.
GIRLING: Suffolk; Stradbroke/Ipswich
HAWES: Suffolk; Harkstead/Holbrook/Capel St Mary/Ipswich
BECK: Co Durham; Chopwell & Northumberland; Newcastle upon Tyne.
MILLER: Cumberland; Mawbray/Hayrigg/ Silloth.
FAIRLAM: Co Durham; Allendale Cottages, Low Westwood, Milkwell Burn.
WESTGARTH: Co Durham; Bishop Auckland

Offline Viktoria

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,073
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What's the name?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 19 November 10 19:31 GMT (UK) »
Well below the word in question is the word Chattels ( as in goods & chattels) so the name begins with a C and would perhaps be a spelling variant of Catherine .
Spelling was very variable at this time..
It says ---- Janet Oldourm(?)   Daughter of C(ateran)----
                                                                 Viktoria.

Offline Craig M

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 32
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What's the name?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 19 November 10 20:32 GMT (UK) »
The will belongs to John Oldcorne.

Earlier in the will he says.

“I give unto my Jannett Oldcorne my daughter forty pounds”

Our reading of the line in question is

“I give unto Jannett Oldcorne my daughter of ??????????????? one cupboard”

The residue of the estate goes “unto Jane Oldcorne my present wife” (Her maiden name was Hineson).

John Oldcorne was married twice, and has children by both wives. His second wife is young enough to be his daughter. He was 57 and she was 21 when they married.

We think we know the Christian name, but not the surname of the first wife. We wondered if in this context the illegible word was the name of his first wife.