Wortley GLS

[velcro]

Hi Ferreter

Could we contact each other privately so to share records concerning Charles Excell and families please?
Eg What is Charles Excell's marriage date to Hester Offer please?
Merry Christmas to all.

Cheers
Velcro

[danuslave]

Hi all

If you look on google maps you can find Wortley just south of Wotton-under-Edge.

I used to live in Wotton and now live in Thornbury (tho' away from home at the moment).  If anyone wants any pictures let me know

Linda

[Ferreter]

  Hi   everybody    Velcro  I have sent you a pm about our connection but I have also   already posted a query on the Gloucester notice board re Charles Excell and Hester Offers marriage to which to date I have had nil replies.  This is one of my brick walls.
danuslave Yes I would love a couple of pictures it all sounds so wonderful. Will try to make a visit myself some time. 
Thinking again about the Grocers shop, I have looked on the Google maps at Wortley whis is only 1.4 miles from Wotton and Alderley(where Thomas was born) only another .5 mile further on.  Does anybody think it possible that the Grocery business was at Wotton.  Going into street-view for both villages they are very very tiny but neverthless each has its own church.  Would they have had their own shops? We are talking of a period around 1841 to 1861.  Thomas was an active member of the community running the Sunday School at the Wotton tabernacle etc.

Seasons greetings     and kind regards to all  

[danuslave]

Hi Ferreter

You might find these interesting

http://wotton-under-edge.com

http://wotton-under-edge.org/

http://cotswoldedge.org.uk/w-u-e/w-u-e.htm

www.wottonheritage.com/

all from google 

Linda

[Ferreter]

Hi everybody

Thanks for the websites. I already had visited two of the sites and the other two provided some valuable information.  I especially liked the pictures of old Wotton and Wortley.  Apparently prior to the Excells dwelling there Wortley had a very successful woollen mill owned by a family who lived in Wortley Hall but the bottom fell out of their business around 1820.  D :Don't know if the remains of the mill still exist.  Also there was a little bit of info. about a Jotcham family, who appear to be builders.  Miriam Excell who was Thomas' grandaughter and worked as a shopmaid in his shop married a Charles Jotcham in 1866. Maybe they met when he came into her grandfather's shop
Fascinating    stuff.  All helps to provide a picture of days gone by
Thanks again Ferreter. 

[Ferreter]

Hi  Another bit to add 1881 census shows Charles and Mirriam living in Old Town, Wotton under Edge. Him a Bootmaker and Grocer, Her a Grocer and Bootmaker's wife.  Please could somebody look up the 1871 census as if they were doing the same thing then it could be they took over Thomas' shop.
Thank you in anticipation   

[danuslave]

1871  -  RG10/2591/44/25

Old Town, Wotton under Edge

Charles Jotcham  Head  Mar  35  Pawn Broker & Grocer  b Wotton
Miriam Jotcham  Wife  Mar  35  Iron Acton
William E Jotcham  Son  1  Wotton


There is still a building firm called Jotcham & Kendall Ltd in Wotton

Linda

[Ferreter]

Hi
That is really great Linda Thank you.  I love the mixture of Pawn Broker and Grocer.  Times were much harder in those days.  I expect some poor people had to pawn belongings just to get a few groceries. I have heard of somebody pawning their Sunday suit and then getting it back when thery were paid in time to  wear it to church on Sunday, but cannot verify this.
Bye the way I think you "fashion sense" is great I used to be dressed like that!
Thanks  Ferreter

[Ferreter]

Hi folks
Still posting on Velcro's query.  I have now found out that Wortley was not actually a village, but a tiny hamlet without any  church about 1.4 miles outside of Wotton on the Edge.  Its population has hardly changed in size.  There was a farm, a mill and a few very old houses, and Wortley House a rather larger house. Therefore there would not have been a grocer's shop in Wortley and I am convinced that Thomas' Grocers shop was indeed in Wotton under Edge and probably in "Old Town" which is not far from the Tabernacle which he served for 30 years according to his obituary. I do not know if there is a Kelly's directory or similar which shows a Grocer's Shop belonging to either Excell or Jotcham. If somebody has access both Velcro and myself would be very grateful

Thanks