End of line for TURNBULL in Durham?

[esdel]

Can it be true that of all these Turnbull brothers in Durham not one had a family?

The eight Turnbull brothers born to Thomas and Sarah are
John 1771
Ralph 1776
Thomas 1777
George 1780
Luke 1781
Robert 1783
Thomas 1787
Robert 1792
all born at Chester le Street

Of those 8 only Luke sems to have married!

Many thanks for any children you can find
esdel

[2zpool]

With the common last name Turnbull and such common first names-John Ralph, Thomas, George, and William, I am not sure how you would know if they were family or not.  There are at least two Turnbulls that were born in the 1770's in Chester le Street  in the 1851 census.  Getting much farther than that - they are in their 70-80's in 1851. 

There is a George Turnbull born about 1781  Chester le Street HO107/2394 folio 225 page 2, with a wife Mary and two sons - John age 30 and Robert age 29.

There is a John Turnbull, widower, born about 1772, Chester le Street with his daughter Bridget Robson (widow) and her children  HO107/2394 folio 538 page 34.

The problem is that they would have been married before 1800 most likely, parent's names were not mentioned in the marriages and those grandchildren may have married before 1837--again parents not mentioned.  Only Luke who has a more unusual name.

Janis

[esdel]

Many thanks Janis

I have added that to my notes and it may indeed provide the vital link later on
esdel

[ulysses]

Hello,

Not sure if there is any connection to my TURNBULLs?

I have Thomas TURNBULL b. 2 September 1781 Whelplitch Chester le Street.
Possible parents: George TURNBULL and Ann (maiden name unknown?)

Thomas TURNBULL married Sarah Dickinson 2 March 1808, Penshaw Register, married by banns, witnesses Wendless Dopple, Robert Mitcheson
Sarah Dickinson b. circa 1786? Hauston?, County Durham,
Thomas died December 1835, Houghton  burial 24 December 1835 age 53

SPOUSE
Sarah Dickinson later married John Maddison in 1842, lived Shiney Row, Penshaw
Ref: census 1841/51 died unknown. John Maddison  b. 9 Jul 1786 Stanhope Durham.

Unaware of any other siblings of Thomas, but would love to find some?

Regards,

[esdel]

Hello
I have several hundred Turnbull, including
George who married Ann
Children were
Thomas b 1781 chr 2 Sep 1781 Chester le Street
George b 1789 chr 4 Oct 1789 Chester le Street
Mary b 1784 chr 14 Mar 1784 Chester le St. P000581



George who married Ann Sanders on 17 Oct 1758
at Chester le Street  M000681


George who married Ann Henderson on 18 Nov 1764 at Hexham

[ulysses]

Hi Esdel,

Thankyou, this is most interesting. Whoever would have thought someone could make sense of all these Turnbulls? That must have taken an enormous amount of time!

OK, well, I think I can lay claim to Thomas b. 1781 chr. 2 Sep 1781 CLS. Thomas had at least one Daughter – Mary Ann Turnbull.

Mary Ann Turnbull b. circa 1811 Birtley, Durham County UK, d. March 1885 Sandhurst, Victoria Australia. bur. Bendigo cemetery 28 March 1885. 
She married Jonathan COOK, April 16 1831, Ref: Penshaw Register.
Jonathan COOK was born circa 1810–13 New Lambton, (near Houghton Le Spring) Durham County d. 8 December 1875 Sandhurst VIC Australia, bur. 10 December, Bendigo Cemetery. Father Jonathan COOK.

Interesting that there are other siblings of Thomas Turnbull ie. Mary b. 1784; and  George b 1789.

Possibly George who married Anne Henderson are the parents, based on the dates for marriage ie. 1764, as the other one (Ann Sanders) is earlier again. So frustrating not to know for sure.

Forgive my ignorance, are these details from IGI?

Cheers,

[esdel]

Well I have 17 Mary Ann Turnbull (Oh if only they had called her Zaccharia!)
Not an 1811 one nor one who married Jonathan Cook

A half-empty glass is half full
At least you have some names to check up on!

Yes my main sources are IGI and the County Parish Records

Good luck and let me know what you discover.
My maternal Grandmother's Mother was Jane Turnbull b 6 Feb 1843, dau of John who married Jane Rochester on 5 Nov 1827 at Jarrow P004292
They had 6 children:-
John 1829
Joseph 1832
Edward 1834
Margaret 1836
William 1840
Jane 1843 who married a Tailor named Thomas Newby  and had 3 daughters info from IGI :-
Tailor         Info from IGI Dwelling 6 Cornwall St, Bishopwearmouth, Durham Family History Library Film1342200 Public Records Office ReferenceRG11 Piece / Folio4990 / 83 Page Number69 Thomas NEWBY   Head   M   Male   34   Washington, Durham
Tailor Primitive L Preacher
Jane NEWBY   Wife    38   South Shields, Durham  Isabella J.R. NEWBY   Daur        8   Sunderland, Durham   
Scholar Emma R. NEWBY     5   Sland, Scholar Margaret H NEWBY   Daur        3   Sland, Durham, En gland

Revised birth date abt 1850 and name Turnbull from marriage and birth info in LDS Family Search IGI

1861 census age 18 at 57 Wapping St, South Shields
John head 62
Jane wife 59
Edward son 27
Jane dau 18

[ulysses]

Thanks Esdel,

Funny, I do have a Zachariah in another branch of the family.

Yes Turnbull, Cook etc, common as Smith, Brown and Jones at this point in history. Still, the name Turnbull has come down through the Cook family until relatively recently (well, late last century).  There was obviously some reference which made them keep it?

I'll certainly keep you in the loop. The COOKs were all miners, as were I suspect the Turnbulls. We were quite lucky with the Cooks, there are generations of them all baptised/buried at St Michaels HLS, so it was very easy to track them.  I managed to trace many using the IGI Pilot Search Durham Bishop's Transcripts, which I have since realised has been taken down from the web.  It was a fantastic resource, original scans of the transcripts all freely available.

Cheers, and thankyou again for these new names, very exciting.

[ulysses]

Hello again,
Just wondering if you have this one? We seem to think that this George and Ann may be a better fit in regard to birth year for Thomas ie. 1781.

George Turnbull b. C1751 d. 20 Jan 1810 Wilson's Row,
Houghton LS buried 22 Jan 1810 HLS.
Married Ann Morrison 24 Jul 1779 HLS.

Apparently there is also a burial for Mary Turnbull 13 Jul 1772 Chester LS residing Birtley.

Cheers,

Hello
I have several hundred Turnbull, including
George who married Ann
Children were
Thomas b 1781 chr 2 Sep 1781 Chester le Street
George b 1789 chr 4 Oct 1789 Chester le Street
Mary b 1784 chr 14 Mar 1784 Chester le St. P000581



George who married Ann Sanders on 17 Oct 1758
at Chester le Street  M000681


George who married Ann Henderson on 18 Nov 1764 at Hexham