You are very helpful ........................ thank you!
John and Eliza were married in Kilkenny on 21 Oct 1869. The marriage certificate gives no details of age or parentage. (was there a major falling out, I wonder....? .... the witnesses were a John & Bridget Glispin who could have been Eliza's brother/sister(in law))So we have no age to go on there ............. BUT the passenger list of the vessel Howrah they came out to NZ on in 1875 gives their ages of 36 (John) and 30 (Eliza) which makes them 1839 (John) and 1845 (Eliza) I have no middle names, sadly.
We are grateful for your help as tragically we have nothing beyond their arrival in NZ and the birth/deaths of their children.
The death notice for John informs people of his demise on 1 Feb 1886 but I cannot locate any death in the BDM for him at all. I have the one for Eliza (Elizabeth) and have sent away for confirmation. Why, do you think, I cannot locate his death record....? Annie - what is the death certificate to which you refer ........?
Thanks again, very much, everyone.......
Jim