Author Topic: KNIGHT family of Clones, late 19thC, early 20thC  (Read 26333 times)

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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 10 October 07 09:28 BST (UK) »
That Batch No. is labelled as being 1682-1733, presumably for the local church in Clones, County Monaghan. However there seem to be distinct surges of KNIGHT family baptisms: 1694-1703; one in 1771; one in 1808; 1837-1845; one in 1856; and 1867-1871.
N.B. Has the present Protestant Church in Clones been there for a while?
Sounds like IGI records are taken from Parish (Church of Ireland) Church. St. Tighernach's Parish Church is in Clones (Diocese of Clogher):
www.ireland.anglican.org
You can order microfilm from LDS to view at your local LDS library for a small fee.
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 10 October 07 10:06 BST (UK) »
Aghadowey,
Thanks very much for that information.  I might well order that microfilm from my local LDS Family Records Centre here ...
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 10 October 07 10:22 BST (UK) »
Keith, I had just finished typing a longish reply with various links last night when the site went down on me. Will try to remember what I had said and linked to and post again later.
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 10 October 07 10:31 BST (UK) »
Scotmum,
That's SO infuriating!  It's happened to me on several occasions, and it's such an effort to pick oneself up straight away and try to replicate all one has put down.  I tried to get on here late yesterday again, but they were overloaded, apparently.
Will look forward patiently to your renewed efforts in due course on my behalf...
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 10 October 07 10:36 BST (UK) »
Wow! Scotmum,
That 1923 account makes very interesting reading - County Grand Master indeed!  I wonder whether the A.Y.KNIGHT mentioned was a family member too?

OK, remembered first part of my post at any rate. It was to say that as well as an A.Y. Knight mentioned, there was also a George Knight. If you recall, I said a parent search on IGI had thrown up some siblings for M.E.  Well, these included an Alexander and a George, so possibly those mentioned were his brothers. 
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 10 October 07 11:59 BST (UK) »
Yes, I spotted George when I reread that link.  The forenames George, Alexander and James seem to recur time and again all the way from the 17thC to the present time...
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 10 October 07 17:20 BST (UK) »
One of the other things in my lost post was this old style Multimap. You can zoom in on Clones and pan around to see where the various townlands lie.
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 10 October 07 21:49 BST (UK) »
Scotmum,
Thanks very much for familiarising me with the local landmarks.  But even now if someone over my shoulder asks questions of me re Irish history, such as when Monaghan and Cavan County ceased to be in Ulster, or indeed why they are not now part of Northern Ireland, I'm lost for words.
Such a complicated history, or am I simply ignorant and naive...?
Regards,
Keith

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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 11 October 07 01:05 BST (UK) »
Dear Keith,
Irish hisory is indeed complicated even for an Irishman!!!!! You
will also find that there are two versions of Irish history depending
on whether you are Republican/Nationalist or Unionist.A bill was passed at Westminster giving Ireland Home Rule (previously the whole island was part of the United Kingdom). The Unionists were opposed tothe bill and the Great War intervened before the bill could be put in place. In 1916 there was an abortive attempt at a
Republication.In short after the war and some say to prevent civil war an agreement in1921 to partition the island was imposed on the Irish representatives. Now the Further complication.
                              There are 9 counties in  the province of
Ulster but only 6 in Northern Ireland.When trhe border was drawn
Donegal , Cavan and Monaghan were left in The Free State as it
was then known(now Eire or Republic of Ireland )The other 6 Down
Armagh Fermanagh Tyrone Londonderry and Antrim make up
Northern Ireland which is still part of the United Kingdom of Great
Britian and Northern Ireland.This means that Paisley is wrong when
he says Ulster when he means Northern Ireland and Sinn Fein
refer to The North of Ireland instead of Northern Ireland as a studied insult to the Unionists!!!!!!
                     I hope I haven't confused you  more than you were.
                                          Regards
                                            Lynchris