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Re: Marriage cert year different in GRO index
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 09:25 GMT (UK) »
First child not born until mid June 1922. Do you think the certificate has been changed?

Maybe that was not the first child ?   What if the first child was miscarried or died at birth ?   
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Re: Marriage cert year different in GRO index
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Maybe that was not the first child ?   What if the first child was miscarried or died at birth ?   

I had considered that, but I couldn't find any other Fellows-Johnson children in the right area (Birmingham) before the 1922 one. If there was a child born before their marriage then it would have the surname Johnson - and there's just too many of those to know if it is true.

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Re: Marriage cert year different in GRO index
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 20:12 GMT (UK) »
Maybe that was not the first child ?   What if the first child was miscarried or died at birth ?   

I had considered that, but I couldn't find any other Fellows-Johnson children in the right area (Birmingham) before the 1922 one. If there was a child born before their marriage then it would have the surname Johnson - and there's just too many of those to know if it is true.

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If there was a miscarried child there would not be a record of it as the registration of stillbirths did not start until 1927

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governmentcitizensandrights/Registeringlifeevents/Birthandadoptionrecords/Registeringorchangingabirthrecord/DG_175614


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Re: Marriage cert year different in GRO index
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 17 November 10 08:21 GMT (UK) »
That's right, David  :)
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Re: Marriage cert year different in GRO index
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 17 November 10 09:48 GMT (UK) »
They were married on the 24 Dec presumably in the parish church.  This only leaves one week in the Christmas period for the register to be sent to the local registry office to be transcribed and included in the quarterly return.

There is also a certain amount of evidence that incomplete pages were sometimes held over to the next quarter.

I think this is a simple case of it missed the quarterly return.  The index entries show the quarter for which the marriage was included in the GRO lists which is not necessarily the same as the quarter in which the marriage took place.

However this does not explain why the quarter is the Dec quarter in 1921.

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Re: Marriage cert year different in GRO index
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 17 November 10 14:03 GMT (UK) »
Just looking at the scan you have uploaded it does look like the 1921 has been changed to 1920

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Re: Marriage cert year different in GRO index
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 17 November 10 16:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Were they married in a church?  If so, have you checked the parish records?

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Re: Marriage cert year different in GRO index
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 17 November 10 16:31 GMT (UK) »
I agree with crisane, it has been altered, when you look at the year after Witness my hand, it is very obvious,

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Re: Marriage cert year different in GRO index
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 17 November 10 16:33 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I will try to track down the parish record to clear things up. I agree that someone probably changed all the 21s to 20s, but I'll know for sure once I find a way to check the PR.

Thanks for all your replies.