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Can't find Great Grandfathers military record
« on: Sunday 14 November 10 12:19 GMT (UK) »
His name was Henry Lloyd and he was born 27th June 1893 in Birmingham UK. He died in 1974.
I vaguely recall him being a cook or some such and that he got praised for rescuing some horses. However I've drawn a complete blank on anything else.

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Any help or ideas would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Can't find Great Grandfathers military record
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 November 10 12:38 GMT (UK) »
During WW11 the building where the WW1 army records were kept was bombed by the Lufftwaffe and around 70% of all the records were lost.  Of those that remain the vast majority are medal records.  Some extensive records remain for some soldiers.   But as usual the records which have survived the most were those of ranked servicemen.

Their is no logic to the records lost, so some remain from all letters of the alphabet.

So going by the above, do not be surprised if you cannot find any records, other than a medal card or a medical card for him.  Ancestry has listed all records remaining.
Fleming (Bristol) Fowler/Brain (Battersea/Bristol)    Simpson (Fulham/Clapham)  Harrison (W.London, Fulham, Clapham)  Earl & Butler  (Dublin,New Ross: Ireland)  Humphrey (All over mainly London) Hill (Reigate, Bletchingly, Redhill: Surrey)
Sell (Herts/Essex/W. London)

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Re: Can't find Great Grandfathers military record
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 November 10 12:42 GMT (UK) »
80% of WW1 records were destroyed during the 1940 blitz. About 4-5% were replaced by unwanted 'pension' files. You should try and discover his regiment and number as otherwise there are simply too many man with that name. If you can do a high resolution scan of his shouder title you should get closer.

Also he appears ro be wearing a single ribbon. This may be for either the 1914 Star or 1914-15 Star, these were issued in about 1919 and 1920 respectively. If he is still serving after about August 1920 his papers will still be with the MOD. You will probably need his number before applying to the MOD.

When was he married?

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Re: Can't find Great Grandfathers military record
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 November 10 12:50 GMT (UK) »
Thanks guys.

He was married 9th March 1918. To Louisa Blewitt.


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Re: Can't find Great Grandfathers military record
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 November 10 15:19 GMT (UK) »
I take it is was taken on his wedding day?

You need a high resolution scan of the medal ribbon as well, as it cannot be a 'star'. Maybe he won a gallantry medal.

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Re: Can't find Great Grandfathers military record
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 November 10 15:32 GMT (UK) »
The brass shoulder may hold a clue - it looks as though it might end in 'A', in which case it would be a branch of the Artillery, who also wore a white lanyard on the left shoulder at WW1 time.
There are ten Lloyds with a first name Henry listed among the medal index cards for Artillery men.  It should not take too long for you to list them from the National Archives, Documents Online site, or from Ancestry, and then use those regimental numbers to search Ancestry's military records which are free to all, today, but probably not tomorrow.
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Re: Can't find Great Grandfathers military record
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 November 10 19:59 GMT (UK) »
Thanks. I have an Ancestry membership anyway so will look into it.

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Re: Can't find Great Grandfathers military record
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 14 November 10 20:22 GMT (UK) »
FOUND HIM!


Strangely enough when writing down the numbers for the possibles I had a feeling it might be that one. Spooky, lol!
After digging around/cross referencing I have finally found his pension record! His number is 43413. The address is 217 Wright Rd Saltley. That is the address my Great Grandmother married from.



Knew you guys would come up trumps!

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Re: Can't find Great Grandfathers military record
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 14 November 10 21:46 GMT (UK) »
His Medal Index Card shows him in RGA, going to France 15 May 1915 and being discharged 24 Apr 1919
Grant in Tipperary
Piper in Tipperary
Blong in Leix
Watson in Offaly
Pugh in North Wales
Evans in North Wales
Proctor in Edinburgh
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