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Re: Section 13 Dalbeth
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 17 February 11 11:22 GMT (UK) »
My 'method' is .....

Every CWGC grave can be identified on their site, so once you find one, you know exactly which Section and Lair number that stone is.

Most people only look for individual casulties on CWGC, but the 'Casualty' box is a pull down menu and when pulled down, changes to 'Cemeteries'.

If you then key in Glasgow (which is the best option), all the Glasgow Cemeteries appear and the one you want can be picked out.

The old part of Dalbeth is listed as GLASGOW (DALBETH) ROMAN CATHOLIC CEMETERY  and the cemetery is listed as GLASGOW (ST. PETER'S) ROMAN CATHOLIC CEMETERY

The single CWGC grave in the old part is listed as 'West Side, Lair 396 not that that would really be any help unless in was Lair 395 or 397 you were looking for!

This method also helps to work out which way the Lair Numbers run - if and when you identify a couple of CWGC stones, all should make sense.

Anne

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Re: Section 13 Dalbeth
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 17 February 11 15:33 GMT (UK) »
Camillo.

I had a look today at the St Peter's / Dalbeth registers in The Mitchel. Section 7 Central is defiantly in St Peter's as there are many listing for that area from 1870's onwards.
I also popped along to the cemetery but there was no one in the office / shed to ask for better location details.

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Re: Section 13 Dalbeth
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 17 February 11 15:45 GMT (UK) »
I've located Section 7C which is in the middle of the "old" part of St Peters just to the left of the new burials in section 3B.

Section 3a runs alongside the full length of the burn from the cemetery office to the end of the central section.

We have also established that section 1 Central runs all the way along the dividing wall.

Anne if you post a blank of your aerial photo I'll put on what information we have from the Celtic Graves Society.

I couldn't see much evidence of burials in the trees by the clyde in your section x but sadly came across quite a few dumped headstone (from the 30's onwards)

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Re: Section 13 Dalbeth
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 17 February 11 17:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Camillo,

Do you want me to send you a blank copy and you can mark it up before posting?

Is it just the central sections you want a map of?

I won't do anything till I've heard back from you.

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Re: Section 13 Dalbeth
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 17 February 11 17:06 GMT (UK) »
That would be great Anne.

It really is an attempt to pin down the exact boundaries of the older sections which are problematical as the newer sections are mostly clearly defined.


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Re: Section 13 Dalbeth
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 17 February 11 17:17 GMT (UK) »
Send me a PM with your personal e-mail and I'll forward a copy.

I've turned the angle of the view to show the whole cemetery but with half of the old, old part cut off. Gerry posted an image of that earlier, so I don't suppose that'll matter.

If you'd rather it was the original way round, just let me know.

Anne

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Re: Section 13 Dalbeth
« Reply #24 on: Monday 03 September 12 15:54 BST (UK) »
I may be asking a question that's already answered but I have just found a record for a child in 1901 Common Ground at St Peter's. Is that in the old section beside the London Road which Anne had marked in the aerial photo? Or is that even older?

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Re: Section 13 Dalbeth
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 08 September 12 23:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Liz,

Welcome to rootschat. Yes the common ground you refer to will be in one of the three areas marked c in Annes photo.

Gerry
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Pollock / Hyslop/ Elder/ Renfrew/ Hart/ Brydon

Motherwell / Anderson / Tradeston / Govan/ Bridgegate/ Aberdeen / Old Machar/ Lanarkshire/ Leadhills/ Penpont/ Muirkirk

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Re: Section 13 Dalbeth
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 20 July 13 07:02 BST (UK) »
I have quite a few people in Dalbeth, and I know the lair/sections.  All of them are in the `W' division. I assume that means west?  Would there be a reason why they would all be in the west side?  Was it less expensive? From a certain time period?  Is there a explanation for the pattern of all being on that side?

I have others (from before 1910) where there is no grave location named.  Would that be because they're in common ground or were they simply not recording the grave locations in the Catholic records at that time?

I will be travelling to Glasgow next week (from Canada), and I am going to visit Dalbeth.  Is there anything I should be sure to do before I go to ensure I get learn the most that I can learn from my visit?

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