Joan Black (Deportded??)

[jake-2]

Hi, Can anyone help?
 When doing family research I came across the name Mrs Joan Black and her family(the family I was looking for) sailing from Glasgow to Quebec arriving on 23May 1910.onboard the Hesperian. Next to her name on the passenger list is written ""To husband 5 months----to be deported 819468."" As yet I can find no trace of her coming back to Scotland .and as yet have no trace of her in Canada.If she was deported to where and why?
                                          Jake

[Elwyn Soutter]

Jake,

When a person is deported or refused entry to a country they are normally returned either to the country they have just come from or to their native country. In this case it is likely she was sent back to the UK (but not necessarily Glasgow any UK port would do), on the next suitable sailing. That could be with the shipping line that brought her over, if the ship that brought her was going straight back to the UK, but it could be with another line if it wasn't. She should appear on a passenger list for the return journey. I have seen deportee (or similar) remarks against such passengers names.

Back in 1910 the border controls were fairly rudimentary. The most likely reasons then for being sent back would be either medical grounds or because she was destitute, or likely to become destitute. Perhaps her husband was not available (disappeared?) or able to support her?


Elwyn

[jorose]

Most individual records of deportation from Canada don't survive, unfortunately.  There is a book called "Whence they came: deportation from Canada, 1900-1935" available on Google Books which shows a nice table of deportation cases and their causes:

1910: medical 212, public charge 348, criminality, 130, other civil causes, 44
1911: medical 222, public charge 289, criminality, 179, other, 83, accompanying (canadian born children of those deported) 18.

If her husband had died or abandoned the family, she could have been deported under the "public charge" heading. I see she was heading to Toronto with a son Peter and a daughter Jeannie - son Peter appears possibly to be in some sort of children's home in Toronto in 1911.

[polarbear]

Also in an institution in 1911 are a Jean Black age 6 b. Scotland (although it says emigrated 1907 for her) and at the National Sanitorium in York Township (Toronto area) a Joan Black age 33 b. Scotland, no emigration date. There is a probable death record for this Joan in 1912.

The census can be accessed for free at this link. Toronto is in Ontario. Click on 'split view' to see the  original images.

http://automatedgenealogy.com/

Can you tell us her husband's name? There is an address attached to the above death record that the husband of the deceased may be at in the census.

Continuing .....

[jake-2]

Hi thanks for getting back. Her husbands name was John Black born in Glasgow Scotland 1880 his occupation in the 1901 census is given as an Iron Moulder this is the last trace I have of him

[polarbear]

The institution that  the Peter is in was apparently an orphanage in 1911. Where the young Jean was appears to have been just around the corner.

I'll have a look for the father.

Polarbear

[polarbear]

Did John have a brother Peter?

[jake-2]

Hi again  Yes John had a brother Peter born about 1876 also in Glasgow. His Father was also called Peter

[polarbear]

Then this may be your John in the 1911 Census. This is from the free census link I gave you earlier. The image should be at the top and gives additional information. You need to enlarge the image (at the top) The lower part is only a partial transcription. John is on line 27, brother Peter on line 22.

http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=77725


And ..... was Joan's maiden name Joel or something vaguely similar to that?