john smith 1587

[madhu]

Next to the name of John Smith 1587 of Nibley, Gloucestershire is written in brackets ( Historian Berkley)
What can this mean???

[t mo]

hello madhu
in what context was this info related too , the only berkley i can think of is the university in california ,but most likely is berkley castle in glos it,s the date that seems early for an historian i would have thought 
trevor

[Ruskie]

Next to the name of John Smith 1587 of Nibley, Gloucestershire is written in brackets ( Historian Berkley)
What can this mean???

Where is this written? What is the context?

[madhu]

on LDS individual records and ancesteral files. (1587)(Historian Berkeley)
I am curious because the author of "men and Armour 1608" is John Smith of Nibley. He also wrote a book about the Lords of Berkley Castle. On Google he is given dates 1567-1640
but both Johns 1567 and 1587 marry Mary Browning d/o John Browning of Coaley in 1609/1610. His first wife Grace died in1609.
Could there be a mistake on LDS site as to the date?

[t mo]

hello madhu
could the record on lds be an extracted record only if so it would mean that it hasn,t been cross checked by others so could be wrong only not all lds records are as correct as we think they are .
trevor

[madhu]

The info. was submitted by the medieval families unit , a unit of LDS utah. They do warn that some info. might be incorrect.
It seems 1566 or 1567 are correct. There is also another John Smith born in N.Nibley 1587 ,and as the name John Smith it must have gotten muddled.

[Ruskie]

It is the extracted records which are more reliable as they were extracted from the actual parish registers. If you view the parish registers yourself they sometimes contain further information.

Many submitted records are pure guesswork or the figment of someone's imagination. I wouldn't trust a medieval families unit of the LDS Utah, particularly with a name as common as John Smith and as far back as the 1500's where records were sparse or non-existant.

What leads you to believe that this John Smith is your ancestor?

[madhu]

Hi Ruskie,
I totally agree with what you say.
My family tree at present looks like this
Robert Smith (1816) and Mary Ann White
Jesse Smith (1775) and Elizabeth Evans (married 1 September 1800, Cam)
John Smyth (1749) and Ann Smith (married 30 May 1774)
Luke Smith (1717) and Elizabeth Joyner (married 4 June 1744, Dursley)
Peter Smith (1694) and Mary Higgins (married 14 July 1715, registered in both Dursley and Coaley)
Peter Smith (1665) and Hannah
Peter Smith (1638, North Nibley) and Sarah North (married 9 October 1662, North Nibley)
John Smith, North Nibley
I have confirmed everything up to peter 1694 but I am still puzzling over Peter 1665 as I dont find a peter married to Hannah, 
I do find Peter 1638 and Sarah North with a son Peter 1665 ,but He marries twice the second time to an Ann but then I dont find a son Peter . Somewhat complicated
So I thought to try it from the other direction John Smith North Nibley ,and as you say John Smith and so for back, its a hard nut to crack.

[CatherineR]

Hi Madhu

I encourage you to look at the following website about John Smith of Nibley. I'm afraid it may end our look at this line.

http://home.zipworld.com.au/~lnbdds/home/smythnibley.htm

However, there's nothing to say there isn't something missing....