Lancaster Police record details ,index numbers

[Plumbob]

Hi I'm hoping someone can explain how I can access the Lancashire Records office Police Record Details I have names and index numbers, from GENUKI,  but where and how can I access the information is there any on-line way of using those references ?

The name and Ref Numbers I'm intrested in are;
Septimus Brown  period 1900-1904 ref PLA 11/18
Thomas brown period 1873 - 1874 ref PLA 11/18
Thomas Henry Brown  period  1884-1888 ref Pla 11/25
William Brown  1840 ref PLA 11/22
William Brown  period 1878 - 1880 ref PLA 11/22.

 Help please

Plumbob 

[Yorkslass]

Hi Plumbob

It doesn't look as though they are free to view, unfortunately.

It costs £10 per record, which with your five names will be a bit steep!

You do your search, then it looks like you have to fill in an online form, but it's not terribly clear how to pay for the records.

http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/education/record_office/records/police.asp

Yorkslass

[Plumbob]

Thanks Yorkslass

 Do you think if I paid the ten quid they would send records of all the brown's listed if so it could be worth the cost .
I have tried in the past to look at the criminal records on Ancestry and found that they just give the name , offence and punishment . without dates of birth / age or address so it makes it impossible to identify the individuals.

I'm hoping someone may be going to the records office and be willing to do a look-up for me a poor lancashire lad.

Cheers
plumbob

[rosie99]

Hi

This might be worthwhile     From the website yorkslass has given you.

Because of the variety of information available and differing costs involved, depending on what information is available, you should email us first of all about the record you have identified. We will then inform you as to what we hold and what the cost will be to send copies to you. Closure periods on some classes of records may limit the information we can make available


Rosie

[rosie99]

Hi

Just as an idea as to what you may get for your £10 this is what was on one I got from Lancashire  (1850's - 1880's)

Details on entry to Police   (Date of entry)               Warrant No
Name   -     age  -      Height      complexion   Colour of eyes and hair
Born (place of birth)
Trade - Labourer
Married  3 children.


Residing Belfast Barracks, County Antrim.
Army  --  Regiment.
Length of Service in army years days.
Pension ----.  Discharged  (date of discharge)  (Notes - Just left his regiment)


Divisions attached (and dates)
Garstang 
Bacup 

Promotions (with dates)
2nd Class Constable 
1st Class Constable
2nd Rate Constable 
1st Rate Constable 
1st Rate under new Scale   
Pensioned at 2/4 per diem.
Five testamonials and parchment discharge   

Description at time of Discharge
Late constable (gives number)
Age - Height -   Complexion.  Eye colour.  Hair turning grey.
As before except
Married and 5 children 
Length of service   years   days
Pension 2/4  per diem for life.
Daily pay at time of pension
Nature of wounds, injuries and other disabilities
Chronic bronchitis and general debility, arising from long service, cold and exposure in discharge of Police duties.

Date of death

Rosie

[Plumbob]

Thank you Rosie

I think I may have my lines crossed , I was looking for criminal records!and seeing your latest post it's clear that
it's Police personnel record's that are on offer.

Wow, is my face red.....

plumbob

[rosie99]

Does this mean you have Criminals and not Policeman in your family then         

Rosie

[Yorkslass]

Hello again,

So, we're looking for black sheep rather than boys in blue!

There are some historical newspapers online - it might be worth looking at those, but with a name like Brown, there may be many entries. There are two particular newspapers, the Lancaster Gazatteer and the Blackburn Standard which may be worth searching.

Do you have conviction dates from Ancestry, dates of birth and approximate areas/addresses they lived.  It might help to narrow down the search.

Yorkslass

[Plumbob]

Hi Yorkslass

 No I don't have any dates, I just saw a lot of Brown's listed and one in particular Septimus, we have 4 of them on the tree so thats why I was intrested. I tried to look at the Lancaster gazatteer  on line news papers site but you have to enroll as a member of the library to view them, think I may do that.

 cheers
plumbob