John Frederick Kearney

[robertjarvis99]

hi Shane

Your edit is correct, sorry should have spelled it out. Seems quite a coincidence if it is 2 separate people and having the same middle name. I have not found anywhere that the Kearney Snr is musical. No question on his son's marriage certificate he was described as an Attorney at Law.

Guess I will just have to wait for all the parish records to come on line and the censuses as well.

[shanew147]

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Guess I will just have to wait for all the parish records to come on line and the censuses as well.
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The oldest surviving Irish census (1901) is already online - see http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

The two occupations (Solicitor and professor of Music) dont sound like they could overlap.. that's why I'm thinking two different people, plus that fact that the John you found on the '81 census also being a prof. of music - makes think he's possibly connected to the Dominick St Kearney family...


Shane

p.s. what was John jnr's occupation on his marriage ?

[robertjarvis99]

Hi Shane

I would think that the Kearney's would have passed away by 1901 but I can look.

On Jnr's marriage certificate he was described as a musician, on the 1881 UK census was put down as a Professor of Music, aged 30 and born in Dublin. He died at the tender age of 33 in West Derby, Liverpool.

Robert

[shanew147]

This evening I'll search directories back a few years (i.e. before 1850) to see if I can follow anything for either the musical family and/or any earlier solicitor/attorney Kearneys



Shane

[shanew147]

I was following the music connection back and forward in time, and found an interesting legal/music Kearney household in 1863 :

Pettigew & Oulton 1840

  56 Mount Street, Anthony Richard Kearney, solicitor

  39 Dominick Street Upr,   Michael Kearney (no occupation listed)

There are less houses on Dominick Street Upr in 1840 - nearly 80 in 1848 and only 40 in 1840.

From Thom's 1848

  70 Dominick Street upper,  Mrs & John Kearney profs of Music

1850

  70 Dominick Street upper,  Mrs & John Kearney profs of Music

1852
   J.H. Dunne, patent asphalte manuf., 70 Dominick Street upper
   Peter Kearney, prof of music, 26 Clarence place Gt

1863
  John F. Kearney, law agent, 59 Dominick Street upper
  Mrs Kearney, English French & musical seminary, 59 Dominick Street upper
 
I'll follow the law agent and address forward a bit more and see where it leads...

I wonder if the details of father's occupation of John jnr's marriage cert might have been a little bit exaggerated


Shane

[robertjarvis99]

Hi Shane

Quite possibly as the son described himself as a Professor when I believe essentially he was a musician perhaps he was gilding the lily a bit.

Thank you ever so much for the help, greatly appreciated.

Robert

[ambyrne1]

In Slaters 1848

The following John Kearney are listed.

John Kearney, 26 1/2 Wellington Street
John Kearney, 5 Pearmount Rathgar Road.
Rev John Kearney, 81 Meath St.

Michael Kearney, 77 Upper Dominick Street, Law agent.
Anthony Richard Kearny, the same as below.

In 1894 John Kearney St Stephens Green Park, Head Gardener

[evequest]

I am related to these soliticitors.  Matthew CANE married the daughter of Charles FITZGERALD (Snr) and their daughter, Christiana Sophia  married the Dublin coroner/attorney Henry DAVIS. His son, Robert Henry Douglas DAVIS was a doctor (and also my gg grandfather). They were also located at St John's Terrace, Clontarf.

In 1850 there are possible solicitor connections on Stafford street (now Wolfe Tone street) :

   28 Fitzgerald (Charles, Charles jnr & James) & Cane (Matthew) solicitors
 

[myluck!]

In 1894 John Kearney St Stephens Green Park, Head Gardener

how would you look for more information on this person?
I have Kearney relatives who were all gardeners around Dublin/Wicklow at this time