John Frederick Kearney

[robertjarvis99]

The person in the title was the father of John Fredrick Kearney born in 1851 +/- a couple of years, in Dublin. His mother's first name was Ellen. I have no other details except his father was a Solicitor/Barrister.

Can anyone help me to trace more details relating to this family?

Thank you.

Robert

[shanew147]

I have a looked at a few Thom's directories around the time of the birth of John F. jnr and later (1848, 50 & 52), but see no listing for a Solicitor or Barrister named John Kearney..  the only Kearney I was able to find in those occupations around that was :

 1850 - Anthony R. Kearney, solicitor, 56 Upr Mount Street

I also checked a few later directories in case John snr qualified after John jnr's birth but no sign in 1863, 1872 or 1879

again, just one Kearney listing in solicitors

 1863 - Francis Kearney, 31 Gt. Charles St & Limerick (solicitor/attorney/proctor index)
Francis Kearney also listed in 1872 and 1879

You can search many Dublin parish records on : www.irishgenealogy.ie Note this website concentrates on City records.

Do you know the Kearney family religion ?


Shane

[robertjarvis99]

Hello Shane

J F Kearney was described  as an Attorney at Law on his son's marriage certificate, he was also a signatory I believe on the William Smith O'Brien petition of 1848.

In the UK census of 1881, the son stated he was 30 years old and born in Dublin and the family was Roman Catholic. It was also stated that the son was a Professoer of Music but I think it was a fancy term for musician. The mother Ellen was born in london in about 1828.

I have been unable to uncover any details from marriage BMD or census regading the parents.

Does this help?

Robert

[shanew147]

what year was the son's marriage ?

I've just double checked the lists of Irish Attorney/Solicitors and Thom's general index in 1848 - and definitely no J.F. Kearney

p.s. do the details on the William Smith O'Brien petition give an address for John snr ?


Shane

[robertjarvis99]

Hi Shane

The son's marriage was in the UK on the 11.2.1875 at St Justin's Chapel, Wakefield, Yorks.His age was given as 24.

I found 3 entries on the O'Brien petition as follows.

John F. Kearney Dublin (Part 1) Signature number 10894 and address given as Stafford Street Dublin.

John Frederick Kearney Dublin (Part 2) signature number 7259 and address given as Stafford Street Dublin.

So these I think are the same person.

Finally John Fr. Kearney Dublin (Part2) signature number 5157 and address given as 70 Dominick Street Upper, Dublin.

In these 2 posts is the sum of the information I hold. I do not know even if there were any other children to them! Apart from the directories, would there be anything in the census's of Dublin? I take it there are no searchable parish records online?

Thank you Robert

[shanew147]

Many Dublin city parish records are available on on : www.irishgenealogy.ie

The oldest surviving complete Irish census is the one for 1901.

It's very strange that John Fredrick Kearney Solicitor/Barrister isn't listed - as Thom's directories have complete lists for various types of legal people in a special Law directory section. These cover all of Ireland, so no matter where in Ireland he was based at the time I would expect him to be included if he was a barrister or solicitor.

I'll double-check those address for the 1870s 1840s/50s and see who's listed..


Shane

[shanew147]

In 1850 there are possible solicitor connections on Stafford street (now Wolfe Tone street) :

 Stafford St.
  16 Peter Casserly solicitor, res. Dollymount
  28 Fitzgerald (Charles, Charles jnr & James) & Cane (Matthew) solicitors
  29 E.H. Hunter solicitor
  37 D.W. Nolan, solicitor

At that time Stafford street is a mix of private residents, general trades (chairmaker, housepainter, seed stores, ironmongers, a few cabinet makers etc ) and a few tenements.

The details for other address in 1850 look more promising - but might complicate things..he's not a solicitor but has the same occupation as John jnr in 1881

  70 Dominick Street upper
    Mrs Kearney prof of Music
    John Kearney prof. of music

I think professors of music were primarily teachers of music, and they often combined this with a professional career.


Shane

[robertjarvis99]

Thank you Shane. Is it possible that Stafford Street was the BA and Dominick Street, his PA? So they are all the same person. In 1881 did it show the place of birth of the Kearneys? and their age?

[shanew147]

Thank you Shane. Is it possible that Stafford Street was the BA and Dominick Street, his PA? So they are all the same person.
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not sure what BA (bachelor of arts -the professor?) and PA stand for in this context ?

I'm beginning to wonder if there were two different John F. Kearneys - one a solicitor and the other in the professor of music in Dominick street, and that the John jnr you found on 1881 English census was son of John Kearney music prof and following in his fathers occupation .

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In 1881 did it show the place of birth of the Kearneys? and their age?
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These details are all from street/trade directories - all these show are name, address and occupation for the business owner or primary householder.



Shane

edit : PA = personal address, BA = business address ?