FEWELL Family

[essexbird2004]

Sue

Sorry
Jack Baxter is the gentleman who transcribed some of the Parish records and but them into several Great Big Books which is handy but it's only for certain Years and then there is of course the transcription errors which am positive there are you can tell this by looking at all the Felsted Sewell's i found but not one Fewell/Fuell when we know there are Fewell's there at that time....Jack baxtters is quick for reference only but i didn't get time to cross ref what was in his books against the PR's which you should always do but as time is of the essence and tomorrow is the last day i can get there before easter i won't be cross reffing anything (unless i think it's significant)

Bet your glad you asked who Jack Baxter was now don't you hahahahaha

Kath xxxxx

[Susie1]

Thanks Kath, I thought I had missed something somewhere along the line.
By the way, I hadn't been getting notification of messages either, just popped on here to night to have a look and found your new info.  But since then emails have been coming through to let me know.

And.......if I invited all the possible Fewell releatives on here , we wouldn't find a room big enough lol

Take care and good luck tomorrow.
Sue

[essexbird2004]

Thanx Sue

so that's a polite NO then is it hahaha oh well will have to get myself a free drink from somewhere else then

I only got your notification and not the one Trev posted, that's another reason i was away from here for so long i thought the board had gone dead, wish i had known earlier never mind i will at least pull my finger out now and check the board anyway!!

Kath x

[MiddleEnglander]

Hi Kath .....

Just a quick line to say thanks for the lookup offer - if anybody's going to dig anything up I know you will.

In due course it will be worth checking the non-denominational records - Sophia, one of William and Margaret's daughters, got baptised as an adult at Braintree Independence Church  (she was the one that married Thomas Searle).  There was also a William christened in the 1770s at the Independence Chapel at Hatfield Broad Oak .... interestingly his parents were John and Sarah Fewell - maybe Sue's lost John me thinks.

Regarding the Sewells of Felsted.  I've been in contact with a really knowledgeable Sewell researcher over the past couple of years (he has over 1500 Sewells listed) and about 18 months ago he cross checked his Felsted Sewells (of which there are loads - as you know !) against my website Fewells and came up with NO matches.  It appeared - at least with that data and at that time - that the Sewells generally steered clear of the Canfields, Thaxted and Takeley whilst the Fewells steered clear of Felsted and Gt Waltham ... which are the recognized 'happy homelands' of the Sewells.   This said, there must be a degree of room for error.

Once again, take care and have a great day ....

Aye

Trev

PS - have you checked the 'e-mail and notification' setting in you personal profile to make sure it's turned on and the relevent forums listed ??  Sounds basic, but mine seemed to reset itself (to no notices) about 6 months ago.

[Susie1]

Casting your minds back to when we decided that some of the Jewel/Jewell/Juel's on the Takely Parish records were actually Fewell's.  I have now checked every one of them on the marriage records with either Boyds for the early ones and BMD for the later ones, and everyone except one (which BMD has as a completly different name) and they are all Fewell/Fewel/Fuel.  So I should imagine that the births and deaths are the same.
Sue

[MiddleEnglander]

Hi Kath ....

Any news from your research and visit to the ERO ?  Knowing how persistent and determined you are I'm sure you're going to uncover something new ..... so have you yet ?? !!

Great suspense here in middle England !

Aye

Trev

[essexbird2004]

Hi Trev and all

Apologies for not posting sooner

Well i did find something but not quite sure it's of any use to us, but it does strngthen the fact that William is in Great Waltham...

I found a baptism for his Grandaughter Anne in Moreton

Anne Fewell s. [sic] of William Fewell of Moreton End, Labourer s. of William Fewell Great Waltham Labourer and Mary [sic] his wife d. of ______ [sic] Twin of Birston??(that was hard to read) near Dunmow. Frances his wife d. of Job Pavett of Moreton End and Mary his wife d. of William Westward of Walthamstow labourer..
Born Monday 16th July 1810, Baptism Sunday (i forgot to write the rest but hey we have her birth date)

Now don't you wish all baptisms were like this one is for Moreton

apart from this nothing on William at all
i found Anne Perrin's baptisms in Moreton
i will put it here as a comparason to Anne Fewell's above as something struck me that maybe just Maybe William Fewell was still alive when his grandaughter was baptised..

Anne Perrin d. of George Perrin of Bowlers Green, Labourer and Agnes his wife d. of Thomas Morris late of Pedlers End,labourer
Born.MOnday 18th July 1808
Bapt. Sunday 7th Aug. 1808

Now it say's Agnes's father was late of Pedlers end does this mean he was deceased??? if so maybe it means that on Anne Fewell's bapt that William Fewell is still alive and Kicking in 1810

Maybe clutching at straws and it doesn't help us find him
What do you think??

Also what if our William Fewell is the one that died aged 83 in 1812 that would make his birth year circa 1729, he would have been 39 when he married Margaret not an imposability i would assume she's younger because of having the last child circa 1791...I do belive for some reason that William died in Great Waltham, and this is the only William Fewell to die there..but still no death for Margaret, unless like the baptism she died as Mary which would be a real pain in the backside as there are lots and lots of Mary's

What does everyone think??

Trev, no historian there when i went sorry..I also checked out the accounts thing you asked and no luck there either..

No Fewell's in the Takely bastardy bonds ( i will add fiche numbers later so no-one goes over the same ground)

Kath xx

[MiddleEnglander]

Hi Kath ...

Thanks for coming back so quickly with your results - I read them straight away, but have had some problems posting a reply.

I think your work has raised some very interesting points - and would agree that the information from Anne's baptism certainly indicates that William and Mary / Margaret were still around in 1810.

It also raises the issue of Mary / Margaret's home village being Barston (I'm sure that's the village given) which is about 2 miles from Lt Dunmow and less than 3 miles from Felsted.  As far as I know, we've never checked the parish records of St Mary's at Barston - so I'd say this needs to be high on the 'to do' list now !  We need to get some sense out of the Mary / Margaret thing for a start ...... and may even find some evidence of William and Margaret's earlier life together (we should be so lucky eh !! ?)

You've also raised the possibility of William being older than we've previously thought - and I think this is a very valid point.  Margaret could well have been much younger than him and may still have predeceased him by a fair way.   I'm not at all sure where his assumed DoB came from ........ but I'm pretty sure that it is indeed assumed.  If he was actually born in the 1720s there are a number of possible candidates around. 

We also don't know whether either William or Margaret remarried after the death of the other ..... maybe this is why we can't find a Margaret Fewell burial ? ........ come to that, maybe as a widower William married a sister or cousin of hers called Mary ?? !!  Hmmmm - my brain hurts !

Anyway,  think you've done some very valuable research - and it certainly should prompt us to ask some basic questions about the information we've got and - dare I say it - some of the assumptions we may have been making. So, a big thanks from middle England !

Thanks too for looking at the accounts book and trying to find out about forcible relocation.

Aye

Trev

[Susie1]

Hi all
I think I've lost the plot somewhere along the line.
If Anne is the daughter of William & Mary, I assume this is the William son of William & Margaret, he must of married a cousin for Mary to also be Twin.
So why are you now looking for William to have remarried a Mary?

Confused Sue!!!!