Hume and Howie

[MacArk]

Hello...I have just found this forum and it looks like a great place for family history investigation and information...I am working on a link to my 4th great grandparents:  Peter Hume (born 1779 Northumberland, died July 24, 1862 Ontario, Canada) and Catharine Howie (born 1773 Northumberland, died August 9, 1848 Ontario Canada), possibly married in 1802 at Wooler W Chapel...anyone have any leads or information for me?  Thanks!  Joanne

[diddymiller]

hello joanne, there is confirmation on the family search beta site that Peter & Katherines (spelling given) children were baptised at the west chapel presbyterian, wooler:

Ann Hume 16/8/ 1803
Thomas Hume 29/7/1805

so highly likely that the marriage you give is right. it may be on the BTs but the site is down for maintainance at the moment.

Diddy

[diddymiller]

this from Genuki for Northumberland archive services:

Wooler, West (Presbyterian) - Births/baptisms 1752-1857, 1885-1950, marriages 1895-1921 and deaths 1906-1921. (Births/baptisms 1752-1857 are included on the IGI.)

Diddy

[MacArk]

Hello Diddy and thank for your assistance...I do believe that these are my 4g-grandparents...I have to apologize for my lack of familiarity with the sites and searches you referred to - I have only been using ancestry.com and a few other Canadian search sites, so I googled "family search beta site" and "Northumberland archive services" and am still learning how they work but appreciate the lead and new areas for learning...I recently visited the grave site of Peter and Catherine in person up in Canada and so I am interested to trace that lineage back further if possible.  I am a descendant of their daughter, Isabell.  FYI:  Somewhere I read that Catherine was from Newcastle upon Tyne, not too far from Wooler...also these Humes seem to vary from stating on censuses that they are English or Scottish so I am wondering if there was a border fluctuation back in that time?  Thanks again, Joanne

[c-side]

Hi Joanne

As I'm sure Diddy would tell you if she was still logged on Wooler is quite a distance from Newcastle.  It's actually only 50 miles but in terms of the terrain around Wooler which is very rural and up in the hills it takes well over an hour to drive to Newcastle even now - it would have been a bit of a marathon back then!

As for the English/Scottish question, Wooler is in fact, even today, further north than some nearby parts of Scotland and not too far from the border.

Christine

[MacArk]

Hi Christine...thanks for the information...I should have said that my 3-g grandmother, Isabel Hume (child of Peter Hume and Catharine Howie), was stated to have been born in "New Castle on Tyne Eng" on her son's death certificate...so what is being considered is if her parents were married in Wooler in1802 and had a couple of kids there, could they have moved and had their last child in Newcastle in about 1812?  And then many of them hop a ship to Canada in about 1830?  Or did Isabel just say she was from Newcastle all those years because most people would have heard of it in Canada?  On the border question, thanks for that information - I may be imagining it but I sense a bit of patriotism as some people have placed "Born in Scotland"  or "Northumberland Native" on their tombstones in this small cemetery in Ontario.  Thanks again.  Joanne

[diddymiller]

Joanne, my apologies for not giving more info about the sites i mentioned.
the BT's are the Durham diocese transcripts (which include Northumberland) at:

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=waypoint&s=waypointsOnly&c=fs%3A1309819&w=0

however after a quick look this morning a lot of records are missing and wooler goes from 1801 - 1804 - not very helpful!!

do you have the date they emigrated?

Diddy

[diddymiller]

i have just seen the info on A* so i see you have the date he went to canada - 1831.

interesting it says he came from a scottish family. scotlands people have all the scottish records back to the 1500's in one place. it is pay to view with free indexes and scottish records are printable. any ideas where in scotland?

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Diddy

[diddymiller]

Joanne - just found out (by googling!) that a member of Rootschat has the transcriptions for
the west chapel in wooler:

"I have microfiche for the three Presbyterian chapels in Wooler"

google wooler west chapel / click on first entry / scroll down to entry by Meadbh and click on green scroll to send a PM.

she should be able to find marriage hopefully!

Diddy