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Re: What was the Great Northern Railway AT?
« Reply #27 on: Friday 05 November 10 15:48 GMT (UK) »


There's also a GNR Society (History?) site somewhere run by enthusiasts.

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Re: What was the Great Northern Railway AT?
« Reply #28 on: Friday 05 November 10 18:23 GMT (UK) »
Found them (on a map of Kings Cross area in The History of the LNER) I googled old pictures of Kings Cross station and came up with a map of the location. Situated on the west side of the station, on the south bank of the Regent Canal, next to the coal drops and behing the famous gasometers, so not the best of locations for a Victorian Estate Agent! £3 tops I would think, or 5/- a week rent for life, at least if you were over the stables you would be warm in winter though smelly in summer. Still working on a picture.
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Re: What was the Great Northern Railway AT?
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 06 November 10 09:31 GMT (UK) »
HI

Brilliant map = http://www.lner.info/co/GNR/kingscross.shtml

Redroger's stables are exactly where he said, AND
there is a second set of stables.

Effectively to the north of, and between, both stations.
Find the turntable, the stables are just west.
(As the map is on its side, stables are "below" turntable).

The second set of stables are almost on top of the current Agar Grove Estate.
Therefore, my vote goes for this set of stables for where they were living.

Ray

ps Unless anyone can find another set of stables.........................   :-)
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Re: What was the Great Northern Railway AT?
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 06 November 10 12:16 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Ray, I was restricted to using a small netbook, and hence had missed the second set of stables. Regarding the residence at the GN Hotel which now seems to have been a red herring, I had always thought they might have been staff, rather than guests. While the Agars Town theory looks attractive, if he was employed by the GNR perhaps their stables might have been the ones? though as you say, in that era there may well have been more. Will keep looking for pictures.
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Re: What was the Great Northern Railway AT?
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 06 November 10 13:15 GMT (UK) »
It truly is a great map, but dated 1874, we must remeber that in 1858 none of the midland railway was there  (st. pancras station opened in1868) and the G N R section had massively expanded.  I am just wondering if 1858 is too early for the second set of stables.
I think we may have answered the original query on this post :) :) :) :)

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Re: What was the Great Northern Railway AT?
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 06 November 10 13:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi

From the text above the map on the LNER website ......

"It only took a few years for this simple track layout to prove inadequate,
when in 1858 the Midland Railway started to run services from Hitchin to Kings Cross."

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Re: What was the Great Northern Railway AT?
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 06 November 10 19:37 GMT (UK) »
Great detective work, thanks a million.

A picture would be the icing on the cake but, as I said earlier, I never expected to get this much information so I am very happy to have learnt this much.

Gareth

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Re: What was the Great Northern Railway AT?
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 07 November 10 13:26 GMT (UK) »
Still working on a possible picture. However, have you approached Camden Borough Council Archives. I think they might have something.
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