Serving in 19th century Ireland

[Talmage]

I am trying to confirm that my great-great grandfather, William Whitmore, was born in Ireland while his father was serving there between 1814 and 1818. The baptismal records for Cahir, near Tipperary, the town given on censuses as his birthplace, have been checked but no record of his baptism has been found.
I wonder if anyone can tell me how likely it was that his mother would have followed her husband to Ireland at this time and also if the regiment would have had a chaplain so that he might have been baptised in the barracks.

Thanks
 Talmage

[aghadowey]

Previous thread on Ireland-General board:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,484723.msg3430789.html#msg3430789

Another on Tipperary board-
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,337424.msg3307769.html

It appears that my great-great grandfather, William Whitmore, was born in Cahir about 1817 when his father was stationed there with his regiment, the 4th Light Dragoon Guards.
His father was discharged in November 1818 and the family apparently returned to Reigate in Surrey, England, their home parish, where they all lived for the rest of their lives.
Does anyone know if there is any possibility of finding a baptismal record for William? His parents were William and Jemima Whitmore.

Another on Ireland-General board:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,227341.msg1203351.html#msg1203351

[km1971]

Have you checked the regimental BMDs on sites such as Findmypast? They include some Home events. If you get a hit you can order a certificate from the UK GRO in the usual way.

There is no mention in the National Archives of a barracks in Cahir until much later. The regiment would have been 'billeted on the local population' and while the CO may have been in Cahir, his regiment could be spread over a wide area. You can discover the extent from the paylists in Kew. The child may have been born in Cahir, but may have been baptism two months later when the father was 40 miles away (say). Also, the father may have waited until they were back in England before having the child baptised. Or the child may never have been baptised.

Regarding the mother, as Ireland was part of the UK she could follow her husband wherever she liked. It was only when the regiment was going overseas that the army had a say in the matter. A campaigning army may have had a chaplain, but not each regiment until much later.

btw…there has never been a regiment called the 4th Light Dragoon Guards. You have a choice of the 4th Dragoon Guards or the 4th (Light) Dragoons.

Ken

[Talmage]

Hi Ken
 Many thanks for this which is very interesting and has raised points which had never occurred to me. I did not know that there might be regimental BMDs so will pursue that. It may well be that I will never find confirmation that he was born in Ireland but I want to follow as many paths as I can before I give up.

Thanks again
Talmage

[MaggieElizabeth]

I'm trying to find out whether my great grandfather's wife and children accompanied him to Malta. He was there for less than a year from 1898-1899.
He was RAMC, a Private.   His Name: John Martin Wheeler, Wife: Margaret Wheeler, Children: Elizabeth, William and Margaret.

Any help or general info on where an army soldier's family would have been during his oversease service is greatly appreciated. (I'm really trying to narrow down the disappearance of his wife: Margaret.  Not sure if she disapppeared when they lived in Belfast, or if she went to Malta with him.)

Thanks in advance!