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McIntoshes (MacIntoshes) of Skye
« on: Tuesday 02 November 10 08:05 GMT (UK) »
I am keen to learn the history of the MacIntoshes on the Island of Skye:  where they came from, when they first appeared on the island and if many migrated from Skye during the clearances.

In particular, I am interested in the roots of Alexander MacIntosh who lived with his wife, Ann McQueen, and children in Mugary, Portree.  I already have details of his children and grandchildren, which I got from his will,  Family Search and certificates on ScotlandsPeople.  And, now, I would like to discover his roots.

Alexander and Ann married 18 March 1829 in Portree, both noted as coming from Mugary.  He was a crofter in Mugary, on the estate of Lord MacDonald, and died there in 1889, aged 92.  On his death certificate his father is shown as John MacIntosh, Crofter.  There is an 1841 census for Mugary listing a John Chas and Mary Intosh, both aged 85 (perhaps they are his parents; no record of this couple in 1851).  On his death, his rights of tenancy in Mugary passed to his son Ewen MacIntosh, from whom I descend. 

I wonder if Alexander received his acreage on Lord MacDonald's estate from his father?  If so, would there be a record of this transaction in the papers of Lord MacDonald, assuming such records exist?  Would there be applicable Sasine records?

My aim is to go further back on Alexander and learn more of the MacIntoshes from whom we both descend.

If anyone is interested in Alexander and his descendants, I would be happy to pass on the information I have.

Thank you.
Perthshire: MacArthur, Whittet, Mill (Milne), Alexander, Shaw, Pearson, Henderson, Rennie, Comrie, Braid, Ritchie, Roy, MacKillop, Keill, Cumming, Taylor, Marshall, Young, Miller, MacVicar, Murray, Cameron, Croll, Christie, Gloag, Gorrie, Stobbie, Lunnan, Thomson, Crerar, Hepburn.
Dundee: Mill (Milne).
Aberdeen: Mill (Milne).
Skye: MacIntosh, Stewart, MacQueen, Matheson, Morrison, Nicholson, MacLeod, Finlayson.
Peebles: Dickson, Sandilands, Rule, Johnstone.
Edinburgh: Thomson, Sandilands.

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Re: McIntoshes (MacIntoshes) of Skye
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 25 November 10 08:20 GMT (UK) »
I thought I would reply in part to my own post for anyone interested.

The Clan Donald Heritage Archives and Library at the Clan Donald Museum, Armadale, Skye, holds "... extensive genealogy sources for Skye and the northwest Highlands, including census reports, parish records, monumental inscriptions, maps and a database of detailed records of several thousand Skye families." and  "... a unique collection of original rentals and estate documents relating to Skye and North Uist ..."

Their web address is www.clandonald.com.  Direct Telephone number for the library - 01599 534454; email - library[at]clandonald.com (replace [at] with @)

If your ancestors were crofters on the estates of Lord MacDonald, there may be reference to your ancestors in the rentals and estate documents which could help with your research.

There is a fee to access these records in person, which is fairly reasonable.  You can also pay for one of the archivists at the library to undertake research on your behalf; this service is expensive.





Perthshire: MacArthur, Whittet, Mill (Milne), Alexander, Shaw, Pearson, Henderson, Rennie, Comrie, Braid, Ritchie, Roy, MacKillop, Keill, Cumming, Taylor, Marshall, Young, Miller, MacVicar, Murray, Cameron, Croll, Christie, Gloag, Gorrie, Stobbie, Lunnan, Thomson, Crerar, Hepburn.
Dundee: Mill (Milne).
Aberdeen: Mill (Milne).
Skye: MacIntosh, Stewart, MacQueen, Matheson, Morrison, Nicholson, MacLeod, Finlayson.
Peebles: Dickson, Sandilands, Rule, Johnstone.
Edinburgh: Thomson, Sandilands.

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Re: McIntoshes (MacIntoshes) of Skye
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 March 11 23:22 GMT (UK) »
I have wondered how the McIntoshes came to be in Skye as well.  It may date back to 1524 when Donald Gruamach (MacDonald). entered into a bond of friendship with the chief of MacKintosh.  There was considerable battling for position in the Isles at that time and maybe the friendship entailed some MacKintosh muscle supporting Donald.

I had looked at the family of Alexander McIntosh from Mugeary.  Alex was about the right age for my GGgrandfather's (William McIntosh) brother but there is no connection.  William was one of the first policemen on Skye about 1840.  He was from Glenurquhart, Inv, and was a pensioner from the 93rd regiment.  He was single in the 1841 census but shortly after resigned from the police.  In the 1851 census of Skye he is married to Alexandrina (MacLeod) and has a son John Duncan McIntosh who was born, Brown St, Glasgow.  I cannot find a marriage record or a birth record for John. 

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Scotland: McIntosh, Wallace, McLeod, Chisolm

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Re: McIntoshes (MacIntoshes) of Skye
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 March 11 05:49 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, John, for your response.

I note what you say in your first paragraph re the Chief of MacKintosh and Donald Gruamach (MacDonald) in 1524.  Prior to 1524 there were links through marriage between MacDonalds and MacIntoshes, and I would refer you to the following site for further details, which you will see in my correspondence with a Don MacFarlane at that site.

http://westernisles.wordpress.com/eilean-a-cheo-skye/

I corresponded with Don re “MacIntosh exiles in the 1700s from the Scottish mainland".

When researching my MacIntosh family on Skye, I too wondered if there was a connection with your William but could not find. 

So far I have not been able to find a birth record for my Alexander.  According to his death certificate his father is a John MacIntosh, crofter.  I contacted the Clan Donald Heritage Archives, Armadale, Skye, to ask if they have details of Alexander's ancestors in their records.  They advised that they have details of Alexander's siblings but I would need to instruct and pay one of their researchers to collate and forward these details; I have yet to give them instructions.

I note you are looking for a marriage record or birth record for John Duncan.  Should I come across, I will let you know.

I would also refer you to the following website post re the history of the MacIntoshes.  Most likely you know much of this, but it is good to read it in a condensed form in the one place!

http://www.scotland.com/forums/clans/20696-mackintosh-clan.html#post318111

Kind regards.

Liz


Perthshire: MacArthur, Whittet, Mill (Milne), Alexander, Shaw, Pearson, Henderson, Rennie, Comrie, Braid, Ritchie, Roy, MacKillop, Keill, Cumming, Taylor, Marshall, Young, Miller, MacVicar, Murray, Cameron, Croll, Christie, Gloag, Gorrie, Stobbie, Lunnan, Thomson, Crerar, Hepburn.
Dundee: Mill (Milne).
Aberdeen: Mill (Milne).
Skye: MacIntosh, Stewart, MacQueen, Matheson, Morrison, Nicholson, MacLeod, Finlayson.
Peebles: Dickson, Sandilands, Rule, Johnstone.
Edinburgh: Thomson, Sandilands.


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Re: McIntoshes (MacIntoshes) of Skye
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 March 11 10:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Liz

There is interesting information on the sites you have quoted.

It was actually William McIntosh and Alexandina McLeod's marriage I was referring to (see link below for information gathered for me by a researcher.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~johnmc46lc/William1.html

John Duncan McIntoshs birth and death record have eluded me for along time but I have the record of his marriage.

Glenurquhart where these McIntosh's originated was not exactly McIntosh lands either, although a bit closer than Skye.

Good luck with your search.
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John Mc 
Scotland: McIntosh, Wallace, McLeod, Chisolm

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Re: McIntoshes (MacIntoshes) of Skye
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 26 April 20 14:15 BST (UK) »
Hello Liz,

I saw the information you had written about your Great Uncle, Malcolm MacIntosh. It was fascinating as I have spent many hours trying to find the name of the area he was in, in Argentina.
He was also my Great Uncle (a brother of my Granny).

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Re: McIntoshes (MacIntoshes) of Skye
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 April 20 09:56 BST (UK) »
Hello Liz,

I saw the information you had written about your Great Uncle, Malcolm MacIntosh. It was fascinating as I have spent many hours trying to find the name of the area he was in, in Argentina.
He was also my Great Uncle (a brother of my Granny).

Hi,

What a lovely surprise to hear from another cousin. 

Who was your granny?  My grandmother was Christina.  They were a large family.  I remember meeting my grandmother's sisters Mary and Dolina when I was a young girl.  They never married and both were nurses.  I was always fascinated by what my mother told me of her uncle who went to Argentina.  My grandmother's father's brother Donald emigrated to Australia. See a link to he and his family below (page 4 Donald McIntosh and his wife, Mary McDonald).

HO_89_2120_Melton_Highway.pdf

If you search MacIntosh on this site you will find other posts from me.

Bye for now and stay safe from Covid-19.

Liz



Perthshire: MacArthur, Whittet, Mill (Milne), Alexander, Shaw, Pearson, Henderson, Rennie, Comrie, Braid, Ritchie, Roy, MacKillop, Keill, Cumming, Taylor, Marshall, Young, Miller, MacVicar, Murray, Cameron, Croll, Christie, Gloag, Gorrie, Stobbie, Lunnan, Thomson, Crerar, Hepburn.
Dundee: Mill (Milne).
Aberdeen: Mill (Milne).
Skye: MacIntosh, Stewart, MacQueen, Matheson, Morrison, Nicholson, MacLeod, Finlayson.
Peebles: Dickson, Sandilands, Rule, Johnstone.
Edinburgh: Thomson, Sandilands.

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Re: McIntoshes (MacIntoshes) of Skye
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 April 20 20:00 BST (UK) »
How wonderful!
My Grandmother was Flora. She lived at Borve (Borve Stores). My Father (Calum Nicolson) was called after Malcolm.

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Re: McIntoshes (MacIntoshes) of Skye
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 28 April 20 09:21 BST (UK) »
How wonderful!
My Grandmother was Flora. She lived at Borve (Borve Stores). My Father (Calum Nicolson) was called after Malcolm.

Thank you for sharing.

I know that Nicolsons visited my grandmother in Perth and my mother's brother (Robert McArthur) was in contact with them.  Going back on our ancestry there are a few Nicolsons in our family tree.

Off and on, I have tried to find the ancestry of Ann MacQueen who was married to our gg grandfather Alexander MacIntosh at Mugary, and I wonder if you know? 

I also have a family tree of MacIntoshes in the Isle of Skye which was sent to me from the Clan Donald Heritage Archives in Skye.  Lots of interesting information there if you are interested. 

You can also send me a private message on this site if you prefer.

Regards.

Liz
Perthshire: MacArthur, Whittet, Mill (Milne), Alexander, Shaw, Pearson, Henderson, Rennie, Comrie, Braid, Ritchie, Roy, MacKillop, Keill, Cumming, Taylor, Marshall, Young, Miller, MacVicar, Murray, Cameron, Croll, Christie, Gloag, Gorrie, Stobbie, Lunnan, Thomson, Crerar, Hepburn.
Dundee: Mill (Milne).
Aberdeen: Mill (Milne).
Skye: MacIntosh, Stewart, MacQueen, Matheson, Morrison, Nicholson, MacLeod, Finlayson.
Peebles: Dickson, Sandilands, Rule, Johnstone.
Edinburgh: Thomson, Sandilands.