Missing grandfather Hugh A J FRASER 1913-

[GrantW]

Hi there. If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate any information on my grandfather who probably changed his name after 1941. I heard he may have ended up in Nyngan or there abouts. He was born Hugh Arthur Joseph Fraser (Hughie) at St Leonards NSW on 24 December 1913. His parents were Rosetta Tysoe and Hugh (Arthur) Fraser. He had five sisters, all deceased now and I believe he is also. His sisters were named Alma (married Clifford Westbury at Tenterfield in 1917), Thelma (married Victor Deen at Sydney in 1956), Florence (married John Brown at Sydney in 1940), Alice (married James Brown at Sydney in 1938) and Jean (married Gordon Fenton at Sydney in 1940, they lived in Warren NSW). The family members I have been in touch with all heard he went missing after the 1940's though not in a missing person sense but just moved on after his divorce and parent's death and went west and probably changed his name etc after family breakup. I have his military record etc but nothing after that. Does anyone know what might have happened to him in their family research. Here is a photo of him in 1941 and also one standing from the late 20's attached in case someone recognises him though I know it is a long shot. Thanks, Just gotta keep trying...GrantW

[sparrett]

Hi
When you say you have his military record, do you mean you have the full file, or just the summary  available at .....

http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/name.asp

If you have more, where was he discharged in 1946?

His sister is his NOK.  Was he already divorced?

He was still calling himself by his proper name in 1946, so the possible name change was not in 1941.

Sue

[GrantW]

Thanks Sue. He was discharged in absentia hence the original name after 1941. Yes I have the full record of his military file. Yes I have the next of kin records as per the enlistment paper and his sister was his next of kin as he was separated 4 years prior to enlistment.  Thanks for your reply and interest Sue. It is truly a mystery where he went. As I mentioned I have only just got in contact this year with his nephews, nieces etc as his siblings are departed. They all no nothing other than a rumour he went to Nyngan. I cannot even find another marriage for him up to the allowable date at NSW records and paid them to do a death search to last year but nothing under that name in NSW and tried NT etc also which seems to confirm my belief that he is departed and not 96 and still goin somewhere,,,,gosh that would be amazing and fantastic if he was...I wish...anyway thanks and would luv to hear back if you have any other thoughts or advice on what I can try. Grant 

[tropicalj]

He must not have been married for very long?

Do you have any details of  the divorce  ie  another woman, if so  what was her name  he  may have moved on with her,  just thinking out loud really 


Jenn

[GrantW]

Hi Jenn
Yes he married Edna Maria Galli in 1933 in North Sydney. They separated in 1936. Divorced in 40-41, not sure precisely. My mother had just turned 2 then.  I have the marriage certificate etc also but she is deceased now. No worries on the thinking aloud Jenn...lol...it all helps. I am about over thinking but hope here and help from people like ur good self can get me back on the track of my grandfather.
I am not sure if I can give you a link but I have more details on my Woodbridge/Fraser/Galli etc myheritage page you are welcome to view and will accept your membership no probs. It has most of the information I can find on him and his family etc.
Grant.  I am not sure if it is allowable to give a link here or all the rules yet as just joined yesterday and bein blind as a bat hard to read everything but gettin there..lol.  Anyway if so here it is    http://www.myheritage.com/site-122118781/woodbridge-fraser-galli-mcdonald-tysoe-freer-keayes-bartley
 PS there was another woman he "got in trouble" though I am reluctant to give her name as my mother told me some years ago that she actually married another fellow and the child grew up thinking she was the husbands...best left alone I think so doubt he moved anywhere with her. Grant

[tropicalj]

Yes it is a very good idea  not to  give details of living persons, Rootschat policy does not allow  this and the names would be removed pretty quick

However  that is an option for you to persue,  we quite often experience people as  they get older loking for  children  they either deserted  or had to put up for adoption.  Maybe your grandfather tried to contact  this child, allthough  if he didnt contact your parent  this might not be  the case


Do you know if you granfather paid maintence for your mother that might be helpfull if you knew where it came from ?
Jenn

[GrantW]

Hi Jenn. No no maintenance other than a bit from the military pay prior to his leaving their company in 1941.  I know the name of the lady he allegedly had the child with but not the childs name etc and of course cannot get birth info after 1909 of NSW BDM. However, even though she would be in her 70's, I would feel very reluctant in case she didn't know Hugh was her father (IF he was) which I understand may well be the case......even if I could find her name. From what I recall my mother saying that lady just moved on with her new hubby and child as did Edna and I guess Hugh moved on with his life and I hope he was able to start again also, just wish I could find out where. Grant