Placename in Ireland

[kreewater]

Can anyone help me decipher this place name in Ireland (probably Limerick) please? It is the residence of a Mary
Ryan (nee Green) circa 1840 if that helps

The heading under which it appears is "Address of person and to whom they are known".

I cannot decipher the address (is is Knockad?) but then says "known to Jno (John?) Odle Esq Odle????lle  Mr. Fitzgerald ditto

Is there anyone who can shed any light on any of this for me. I would appreciate it.  I strongly believe that the place name is somewhere in Likerick but am willing to consider any possibilities.  Fresh eyes needed.

Kreewater

[Wiggy]

Hi Kreewater,

Bit tricky isn't it - looks like Tino (Lino/ Feno?) oKadriough (??) , known to Mr Odle Esq Odleville .  I think it would be someone's name  - known to  - wouldn't it??       

Hmmm

Wiggy 

[Wiggy]

Looking again - maybe Leno - there doesn't seem to be a dot on any 'i' in first word - and the 'F' doesn't match the F n Fitzgerald.

Wiggy   

[kreewater]

Tricky???  It's driving me nuts.  I spent about ten hours going through lists of every place name in Irish history that might have ended in "gh" and looked like it might match the rest of it!!!!!!

I even began to investigate the "Odle"s of the world to see if there was a clue in there somewhere.

Thank you so much for looking at it for me............ I hope someone can shed some light on it.  I had considered that the first four letters were not joined to the rest of the word but then discounted it because of the small "o" following it.  I also considered the similarity between the formation of the two letters if they were both "k's even though one is capitalised...................

There were no gentry named Odle in the area I am looking at for that period (1836-1845) and I don't think "Odle" was commoner as his name was being used as a reference.  So .............. the mystery remains............... (Fitsgerald's were thick on the ground so I couldn't narrow that down to get an area either).

Your input is much appreciated.

Kerri

[Wiggy]

I started looking at place names - but couldn't find anything either! It might be a name of a farm long gone - sometimes areas were known by the farm names weren't they!   In which case it won't show up on a current map          

And just consider if it is a gaelic spelling - that will add some  . . . interest!!   


Good luck and I hope you will post the definitive result!!   does Mr Odle need to be gentry??  He might just be a local farmer.

Wiggy   

[kreewater]

I'ts very possible that this place was somewhere in the vicinity of Rathkeale if that is any assistance to anyone looking at this post.  And the family to whom this reference is being made (Ryans) were a family of five children who had perhaps not too long before this was written, lost their mother, Mary Ryan (nee Green).  They were indeed farmers so I suppose your comment abuot Mr. Odle is a possibility........

[PrueM]

Hi kreewater

I have found a few references online to a family named ODELL from "Odellville", Ballingarry, Limerick, including:

http://www.libraryireland.com/topog/subso.php
http://sources.nli.ie/Search/Results?lookfor=%22%20Odellville%22&type=subject
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=:900330&surname=Odell

That may give you an area to start looking at for the other place - haven't worked out that placename yet!  I think you're right that it's "Knockad..." though...
 
Cheers
Prue

[kreewater]

Prue,

Well done!!!!!  good find.  I couldn't find Odellville (though I hadn't considered that spelling) and must admit I thought it sounded a bit dodgy.  Mr. Odle from Odleville?  I had considered it might be a false claim!

Thank you so much - what a terrific lot of people one meets on these message boards.


Heading to Ireland for a investigative holiday next year so now will have to add that obscure place to my list!

Kerri

[kreewater]

That name "Ballingarry" is coming up a bit in my research so I am beginning to think it might be a clue!

K