William Mark Prewett EBBS

[sparrett]

This seems to be another son with birthdate about 1903.
Has he been mentioned before?

DEATH
EBBS, WILLIAM
Age 62
Father WILLIAM
Mother  MARY A.
At   FREMANTLE
Reg. 630
Year 1965

Sue

[Dundee]

I knew there was a William from the death notice, but couldn't find him.  I think this might be him with a mistranscription:

1905
HOBBS, William
Parents: William & Mary Ann GODFREY (FREMANTLE)

I had a look at the deserter's records, but no joy there sorry.  I checked "Ships' deserters, 1852-1900 including stragglers, strays and absentees from H.M. ships" (Jim Melton), and the South Australia Deserters' Register.

Looking at the children's births, William/Mark added the "Ebbs" to his name when Joseph was born in 1884, but used the PREWETT surname and continued to do so right up until the birth of William in 1905.  Perhaps he just didn't like the name "Mark" and wasn't actually hiding from anyone, and something happened between 1897 and 1905 to change the surname to EBBS?

Debra 

[velcro]

Hi
Any death records on this Mark please?
NAME:   Mark Prewett       BAPTISED:   15 Jun 1845 at Thornbury
                
FATHER:   Joseph       MOTHER:   Susan
OCCUPATION:   Labourer       ABODE:   Thornbury
Any chance to find out how his brother died?

Henry Prewett       BAPTISED:   20 Oct 1848 at Thornbury
                
FATHER:   Joseph       MOTHER:   Susan
OCCUPATION:   Labourer       ABODE:   Thornbury


NAME:   Henry Prewett       BURIED:   7 Jan 1866 at Thornbury
            AGE:   16 years
ABODE:   Thornbury

Assistance with birth records or marriage/ census records of his siblings to see if the Ebbs name was also carried on through the families?
George Prewett,Charles,Charlotte,Mark, Walter,Henry.

My William Prewett Ebbs had 1st son named Joseph Ebb Godfrey. Which was a great help to fill the gaps. Also they spent some time in Albany WA and a son was named Edmund Albany Ebbs.
Another child

PREWETT, Mark Ebbs CD 725755
Death: Age at death. 9 months.
Reg. Year. 1886
Reg. State: WA.
Ref. No. 13668.

Cheers
Velcro

[velcro]

Hi
There was another Thread with Caroline Watson and Thomas Ebbs which I cant find could some kind person please forward this on so to reexamine the possibilities of these families please?

Cheers
Velcro

[Dundee]

Hi Velcro,

There is a death registered in 1850 for a Mark PREWETT at Thornbury, and you would have to get this death cert and Henry's to find a cause of death.  UK BDMs from Sep 1837 onward are here http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

If you go to the top of this page and click on "Search" you can put the names from other threads in there and find all past postings.  This is one of them http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,447087.0.html

Debra 

[Dundee]

Hi Velcro,

No children are listed on census entries for Charlotte and William EDWARDS up to 1901.

Walter may have died in 1853 http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl   I can't see him on census entries after 1851 which I gave you in an earlier post.

Having a bit of trouble identifying George, but in 1901 there is a George PREWETT who is a pauper inmate at the Thornbury workhouse, aged 66 (born c1835), single, born at Thornbury.

The only contender that I can see for Charles is this one:

1871
Cardiff, Wales

Charles R. PREWETT, 31, Grocer and Cab Proprietor, born Thornbury, Gloucestershire
Sarah, wife, 28, born Appledore, Devon

It might be their marriage in 1864 at Cardiff (her maiden surname Sarah ROSS)

I can't see them after 1871, so possibly Charles' death later in 1871:

Deaths
Dec 1871
PREWETT    Charles
33
Cardiff
11a   173

A pretty unlucky family all around really, and might explain why Mark/William and Charlotte maintained a close relationship.

Debra 

[velcro]

Hi

Question? Obviously Marriage certificate is the answer but ask any way.
Marriage cert states parents of Mary Ann Godfrey to be Joseph Godfrey and Marion Obrien (both sound of Irish descent does anyone else agree?)
but IGI records states

Thomas GODFREY (AFN:1Z7B-XZX)      Pedigree
   Born:     Abt. 1829       Place:        
   Married:     6 Dec 1854       Place:     Rc, Perth, W.a., Ausl    
   Father:        
   Mother:        
Wife's Name
   Catherine HOLMES (AFN:1Z7B-Z04)    Pedigree
   Born:     1833       Place:        
   Married:     6 Dec 1854       Place:     Rc, Perth, W.a., Ausl    
But both couples have same children.
Which is correct?

If marriage cert is correct then corrections to be made for IGI.

Cheers
Velcro

[sparrett]

Hi Velcro,
The information you are quoting from "familysearch" appears to me to be  nothing more than the composition of another researcher.

The details are based on the same information and records which are available online to anyone, that is WA bdm online.

Unfortunately, there are many trees out there published with great confidence, but unsubstantiated information. This tree may or may not be accurate.  Certificates may or may not have been sighted.

We have not been able in this search to establish why the parental details on the marriage cert. for MARY ANN are at variance with later information.


Sue

[Dundee]

Hi Velcro,

Sorry you have lost me here - "but both couples have same children, which is correct?" - who are the two couples?

Thomas GODFREY and Catherine HOLMES married and had children in WA, but I am unaware of any other children (other than Mary Ann who says they are her parents) to Joseph GODFREY and Marion/Mary Ann O'BRIEN.  There is no proof that I can see that your Mary Ann is the daughter of Thomas and Catherine.

As far as I can see, the submitted entry on the IGI lists Thomas and Catherine's children, one of whom is a Mary Ann born WA in 1859, and this can be confirmed on the WA BDMs.  It does not have any marriage details for her, and does not identify her as being your Mary Ann.

There are contact details for the IGI submitted info, so perhaps you should try contacting them to see if they have any further info.  There are trees on Ancestry which do say that your Mary Ann was the daughter of Thomas and Catherine, so should also contact them to see if they have any supporting documentation.  Even this person's tree, "RJMORR~1", names Thomas and Catherine as parents but has posted a copy of the marriage certificate which obviously has conflicting information - no explanation for this is given.

Debra