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CALDWELL and GILLEN
« on: Tuesday 19 October 10 03:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Everyone
My brick wall is one Audley Caldwell of Castlederg/Killen, Tyrone.
I have been told that there is a Coat of Arms/Crest in the Graveyard in Castlederg. :o  I have seen our ancestory crest and would dearly love to compare to the one there.  If anyone has seen it, or better yet, has a picture, that would be wonderful.
Henry Caldwell b. 1770 married Bridget Manning in Ireland.  His descendants live in New Brunswick and from there, all over the world.   If anyone ties with him, I am happy to share with you.
Henry's brother is Audley b. 1771-1779 and he stayed in Ireland. 
My Caldwell's were Protestant.  Manning was probably Catholic as the children were Catholic and Henry converted when he was in his 70's. I am long winded when it comes to this......thank you.
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CALDWELL and GILLEN
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 October 10 01:55 BST (UK) »
Hi
I hope you are still there from 2008.
I am not sure where Magilligan Parish is, in relation to Castlederg, but a couple of names caught my eye.

CALDWELL and GILLEN
Before 1833.  After that, they are in New Brunswick, Canada.

What a feat-info from the 1600's. Canada has very little info of that era.
Thank you in advance, for any family that you might see.

Have a great day!
Barbara

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Re: Surnames of Magilligan parish
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 October 10 07:44 BST (UK) »
Hi,
     The parish of Magilligan (Tamlaghtarde) is in the north coast of Co. Londonderry, seven miles north of the town of Limavady. It is a considerable distance (in Irish terms) from Castlederg.

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Re: CALDWELL and GILLEN
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 October 10 08:31 BST (UK) »
Since Castlederg is in Co. Tyrone not Londonderry I've split your post and move it to TYRONE board. It is difficult to get information pre-civil registration (1845/1864) but if you give us more details on your family we might be able to help.
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Re: CALDWELL and GILLEN
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 October 10 20:15 BST (UK) »
I am very thankful.
Henry CALDWELL b. 1770 married Bridget MANNING b. 1771
Henry was a school teacher and he had a falling out with his parents when he married a Catholic commoner. Henry's parents --Sir Audley Caldwell and Lady Sidney Simms.  Henry had a brother Audley CALDWELL that stayed in Tyrone while Henry, Bridget and confirmed six out of their seven children, came to New Brunswick, Canada.
Henry's daughter Catherine Caldwell b. 1808/09 married Daniel GILLEN  b. 1808 in Donegal. Daniel had brothers-Patrick and James-also immigrating to NB.
My direct line is Henry's son Charles b. 1795. There is an extract from the Strabane Morning Post dated April 30, 1822, for Insolvent Debtor's Court for Charles Caldwell, late of Kallan.  I think this is my Charles of Killen, as he immigrated to Canada is summer of 1822.
Thank you so much,

Barbara

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Re: CALDWELL and GILLEN
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 20 October 10 20:25 BST (UK) »
You seem to have found a lot of information already but is there something in particular you are searching for in Irish records?
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Re: CALDWELL and GILLEN
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 October 10 00:11 BST (UK) »
Yes, Aghadowey,
My wall is Henry's parents.   These Caldwell's are not the Castle Caldwell family.  Henry's father may be Audley but I continue to search for some record of his birth, marriage or death.
There is an Audley (2) Caldwell d. 1859 I beleive him to be the son of Audley(1), Henry's brother.  I have searched his Audley (2)--his family connects with Bestall and Leary, etc  but can not prove it and therefore ?
So, Henry's parentage, is my mission.!!

But there is still the mystery of the Coat of Arms and the dogs added onto the sides? 
Killeen is another town that is frequently mentioned with lots of Caldwells.  Is there a record for school masters or teachers, as Henry and his son Robert, were both teachers. Robert was born in 1821 and immigrated in 1835.  (The 1851 census in NB, states S. Master)

I think  that I have too much information and I need to throw it away and start clean.  Thank you,  Aghadowey, I just feel that there is someone else out there, that has been searching too and if I don't find out, for my children and grandchilderen, no one will every know where these wonderful people come from.

Barbara



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Re: CALDWELL and GILLEN
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 23 October 10 17:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Barbara

My husband has a William Caldwell in his tree, born 1850 in Tyrone. His parents were Charles and Jane Caldwell. Unfortunately that's all we know, but there could be a connection to your Caldwells.
MAGEE (Dungannon Tyrone to Shankill Belfast, to Whitehouse Co Antrim,) HALL (Lisnaskea, Fermanagh to Yan Yean, Melbourne Australia) McIVOR (Whitehouse, Co Antrim), McCULLOUGH (Markethill, Armagh), DEMPSTER (Ballymena, Co Antrim to Belfast), CUMMING (Glasgow), EVANS (Llandysill, Montgomeryshire to Belfast), NEVIN/ NEVINS (Ballynahinch, Co Down to Belfast), EMMS (Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey), HURREY (Yan Yean, Whittlesea, Melbourne), FINLAY- Jane, of Co Down, m James McIvor 1867. HOBSON Tyrone

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Re: CALDWELL and GILLEN
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 23 October 10 23:04 BST (UK) »
Thank you Liscoole,

William is a common name in my Caldwell's, along with Charles and Charles Henry. 
My time line turns to Canada after 1840, but I have "files" of Caldwells, so will check my database.
Charles could be Audley (2)'s son. 

Thank you for the post and I will be in touch.
Barbara