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Re: Another Conundrum - Emley/Heckmondwike
« Reply #36 on: Friday 11 February 11 23:44 GMT (UK) »
I can confirm that the Elizabeth Scargill whose birth was registered 2Q 1857 at Dewsbury is not Betty on the 1861 census. This Elizabeth was born in April 1857 the daughter of Isaac Burnley Scargill & Ann Hill Scargill and baptised at Hicks Lane Wesleyan chapel in Batley in May 1857.

There are no other births registered for a Elizabeth Scargill during the period in question but as this is before 1875 it is possible the birth was not registered although Jane Scargill registered the births of her daughters born in 1856 and 1858.
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Re: Another Conundrum - Emley/Heckmondwike
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 02 March 14 19:53 GMT (UK) »
Harriet and Mary were sisters. When Harriet died Thomas married Mary who was a widow.
Goldthorpe name in the Barnsley, South Yorkshire area.

Gawthorpe in Newmillerdam area

Duffin in Ryhill

Gallear/Gallier or Callear in Shropshire, Staffordshire and Yorkshire.

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Re: Another Conundrum - Emley/Heckmondwike
« Reply #38 on: Monday 03 March 14 11:55 GMT (UK) »
Harriet and Mary were sisters. When Harriet died Thomas married Mary who was a widow.

Baptism:     Kirkheaton, St John The Baptist, 16 Oct 1814

Harriot [sic] Hallas dau of Jonathan [Clothier] and Ann, abode: Lepton.

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Re: Another Conundrum - Emley/Heckmondwike
« Reply #39 on: Monday 03 March 14 12:06 GMT (UK) »
A possible marriage,     21 Aug 1806    Kirkburton, All Hallows
Jonathan Hallas/Ann Sutcliff


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Re: Another Conundrum - Emley/Heckmondwike
« Reply #40 on: Monday 03 March 14 12:17 GMT (UK) »
1841, living Emley.  {crumbs! 2 young women and a boy child all Miners]  Just proves how hard times could be then.  :(

Jonathan Hallas    55, Fancy Weaver
Hannah Hallas    55
Esther Hallas    20, Coal Miner
Ann Hallas    15, Coal Miner
Jonathan Hallas    11, Coal Miner
Margret Hallas    6

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Re: Another Conundrum - Emley/Heckmondwike
« Reply #41 on: Monday 03 March 14 12:25 GMT (UK) »
1861, Flockton [jonathan son of Jonathan?] All born Flockton, except Jonathan.

Jonathan Allace [sic]   31, Coal Miner, Emley
Martha Allace    30
Thomas Allace    6
George Allace    2
Henry Allace    0


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Re: Another Conundrum - Emley/Heckmondwike
« Reply #42 on: Monday 03 March 14 12:36 GMT (UK) »
Marriage: 19 Sep 1852 ,Thornhill, St Michael and All Angels
Jonathan Hallas, Miner, Emley, son of Jonathan a Weaver
Martha Beaumont, Flockton, dau of George a Miner

There's other marriages within a possible time frame where father is Jonathan, maybe you'd like them at some point after having time to digest what info you have so far.  I found them on Ancestry, haven't looked on family search so they could be on there too.

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Re: Another Conundrum - Emley/Heckmondwike
« Reply #43 on: Monday 03 March 14 12:55 GMT (UK) »
That's the family Libby. Great work!

 It appears that Ann also used Hannah as he first name.

Thomas Gawthorp and Harriet had ten children (that I know of) and he was from Chapelthorpe and baptized 17 January 1813 at Sandal Magna, St Helens. Of those children only one became a Goldthorpe
Goldthorpe name in the Barnsley, South Yorkshire area.

Gawthorpe in Newmillerdam area

Duffin in Ryhill

Gallear/Gallier or Callear in Shropshire, Staffordshire and Yorkshire.

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Re: Another Conundrum - Emley/Heckmondwike
« Reply #44 on: Monday 03 March 14 13:52 GMT (UK) »
I don't think this has been posted, but it's a long thread, apologies if the info is already here.

1841, Thornhill, Dewsbury.

Thomas Gawthorp    25, Tanner
Harriot Gawthorp    25
Mary Gawthorp    7
Jonathan Gawthorp    6
George Gawthorp    4
Esther Gawthorp    3