Jervis Forrester, Hope and Anchor pub

[jacksmelad]

From mentions in newspapers and baptisms these suggest Emanuel had moved to Coalpitford by 1799, around the time the newspaper article states that the partnership at Fenton Low Colliery was being dissolved.By 1819/20 he appears to be back in Bucknall
Baptisms of Emmanuels children:
 Bucknall St Marys- 1793-1797
 Cheddleton St Edwards 1799-1805
In 1798 at Bucknall he gives his contact details as Birchgate near Bucknall
the Uk Land Tax Redemtion states more generally at Eaves for 1798.
He appears on the game lists still in cheddleton in 1818 and then from 1820 in Bucknall.(1822 a sale of items at Bucknall and game list 1830)

Jervis also appears on a couple of the same lists and in 1806 says he is a gamekeeper at "Cunsall ,otherwise Consall" which is interesting as this is a similar spelling as John Forresters will of 1747 previously mentioned"Cunshall"
Churnet Valley Timeline mentions " C1750
A forge is established at 'Cunshall' - the place is now called Consallforge."

[Martin Feledj]

I love all this stuff from the Cheddleton area as this is where James FORRESTER born 1777 was from (a 4th Great Grandfather of mine).
His birth record is not certain but reading his life backwards everything fits with his birth year of 1777.
The family bible has him and his Daughter Mary GOLDSTRAW FORRESTER as coming from Southlow, Wetly Rocks.
All these posts are great background material and everything helps me.

There are so many FORRESTER's it is hard work linking them.
https://feledziak7.wordpress.com/2024/11/15/2-james-forrester-1777/

[jacksmelad]

I saw this baptism at Stoke Parish  Church of John Forrester 3 Jan1735 of John and Mary Forrester of Bucknall.Can't recall if we mentioned this previously. Appears to be twins? Thomas and John but only Thomas was transcribed in the search so John was hidden. Another potential candidate for John Forrester at Launders Bank Bucknall perhaps? If so this John would be about 21 when married to Mary Lightwood. The other likely contender still remains William as father which would fit with their first child being baptised William as we discussed, but a John Forrester of bucknall b 1735 ,very interesting.

[Martin Feledj]

Took me ages to find my password for this site !!

I am Still confused as I just had a look at the parish printed book. It does recognise twins but Thomas and William. ( Although it could look like either John or WM the short version for William  )

So is that curly bit a J or a fancy W. thinking about it I would go with WM



Not sure it changes things much other than to add more possibilities.

Glad to see you are still looking for clues.

BUT I am thinking - the SCOTTISH link is further away now.

[jacksmelad]

I agree with Martin—looking again at the 1735 register, that is clearly William rather than John. It’s a great catch and interesting to see him as part of the broader Bucknall Forrester/Foster group. This likely places him as a son of the elder John and perhaps a close relative (brother or cousin) to the John of Launders Bank. Other key members of this early Bucknall cluster include the Henry buried in 1756 and Isabella, daughter of John and Mary of Bagnall.

Regarding the names Jarvis/Garvis and Emanuel, the onomastic evidence we’ve found—meaning the use of rare naming patterns as a genealogical marker—strongly suggests a direct lineage that transcends surname spelling variations.

Effectively, these names act as a 'family signature' anchoring our Bucknall branch to the ancestral Moorlands clan. Unlike everyday names such as John or William, Garvis and Emanuel serve as distinctive markers that help us track this specific family through the records.