Jervis Forrester, Hope and Anchor pub

[Martin Feledj]

I am  fairly confident that "Launders bank" John FORESTER born 1731 (married to Mary LIGTWOOD) was resident at  Launders Bank farm when he recorded his will in 1780.

I am happy to see that FORRESTER'S were still there in 1911. Probably later too !!

George FORRESTER born 1862 was a son of Edward FORRESTER who died in the Ubberley Colliery disaster 1851.

Edward born 1804, killed at the Ubberley disaster, was a son of James Forrester born 1777 and Betty WARDLE born 1784.

James born 1777 was a son of William and Mary FORESTER.

I am trying to link this branch back to the original Launders Bank John FORESTER (married to Mary LIGHTWOOD)

still working on it !!

My current best guess is William, Father of James born 1777  and "Launders bank" John FORESTER born 1731 (married to Mary LIGTWOOD) were Brothers.

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[Martin Feledj]

I have added the below image for the benefit of TEZ.

[Martin Feledj]

Here is the left part - The tree is so big and there are so many re-cycles of the names too !!

[tezbucknall]

Hello,  to all who are  interested  in the Forrester family tree . please read the history of Biddulph in it it mentions a Richard the Forrester 1089 it also mentions in 1745 the passing through of Scottish soldiers on the way to Derby .So there were Forresters in Staffordshire before the link to John ,but there  could also  be  a link to John through the Scottish soldiers , Sorry Martin if this has given you more research,Tez.

[jacksmelad]

Hi Tez, welcome to the forum. Hopefully Forrester DNA matches might shed more light on this. I  share a Forrester DNA match with Philip B. who also has Aldridge connections so presume he is closely related to you back to Elizabeth Forrester and James Aldridge?
 Keeping an open mind on all things Forrester at the moment, hopefully the evidence will point the way over time.

[Martin Feledj]

Still yet to sort out FORESTER families for the 1700's

BUT I am sure here is the root of it all.

Here is a clipping from the doomsday record.

I have never been a one for Latin.

NAME: RICHARD THE FORESTER
This landowner is associated with 0 places before the Conquest; 21 after the Conquest. (Note that the same name is not necessarily the same person.)

After the Conquest
Tenant-in-chief in 1086:
Tenants-in-chief held land directly from the Crown.

Bramcote, Bumbelowe, Warwickshire
Chesterton, Tremlowe, Warwickshire
Clayton, Pirehill, Staffordshire
Dimsdale, Pirehill, Staffordshire
Estendone, Cuttlestone, Staffordshire
» Show 14 more
Lord in 1086:
The immediate lord over the peasants after the Conquest, who paid tax to the tenant-in-chief.

Bramcote, Bumbelowe, Warwickshire
Calcutt, Marton, Warwickshire
Chesterton, Tremlowe, Warwickshire
Dimsdale, Pirehill, Staffordshire
Estendone, Cuttlestone, Staffordshire

[jacksmelad]

 A bit of work to do before we get back to Doomsday but interesting to see the mention of Forresters.

 From what we know Elizabeth W Bass local historian suggested the Scottish Jacobite connection and I was told by someone who knew Elizabeth that the evidence she gave for this was the will of John Forrester of Launders Bank.
Here is the will -

By the will of God Amen I John Forester of Launders Bank in the parish of Stoke Upon Trent and county of Stafford Husband Man being weak and infirm of body but at the time of sealing and Delivering this my will and testament of perfect Disposing mind and memory thanks be to God for the same this fourth day of October in the year one thousand Seven hundred and Eighty make and ordain this my last will and testament to and for the intents and purposes herein after mentioned

 and first my will is that all my just debts and funeral expenses be paid out of such of my worldly property as my executors shall think proper in the next place I do give and bequeath to my loving wife Mary Forester all those pieces and parcels of land situate at Brookhouse Lane head in the parish and county aforesaid  which said land I the said John Forester purchased of Mr Thomas Walklate together with that Dwelling House and Out buildings and lands thereto belonging situate on the side of Wetley Moor and known by the name of the Limekiln Bank in the parish and county aforesaid and granted to me upon lease for the term of ninety nine years from Mr Thomas Walklate aforesaid During the time of my said wife's natural life the same to be occupied  in the most proper manor that my executors shall find most profitable for the maintenance of my said wife and such of my younger children that shall not be able to maintain themselves.

 Next I do give and bequeath to my said wife all my cattel of what kind so ever together with all my household goods and furniture (.....?) all bills bonds and ready money and possession of the farm called Launders Bank with all other my personal estate of what kind so ever for the use of her my said wife and such youngest children that are now or shall not be able to maintain them selves during the time of my said wife's natural life and when such of my cattle as shall become useless by reason of age or other casualty's and there by the said stock be diminished my will is that the same shall be replaced at the discretion of my executors in order that my stock may be kept up as much as possible for the use and maintenance of my said wife and youngest children as before mentioned and be it always understood that I do hereby give all the within mentioned estates real and personal as before mentioned to my said wife during the time of her natural life only and at the time of her my wife's decease then my will is that all my said lands goods and cattle or estates real and personal or other property to me or her lawfully belonging shall then be should and the produce thereof  equally divided amongst all my children then living or their heirs share and share alike

 and my will is that if my wife shall happen to marry another husband that then my will is that all my aforesaid estates shall be then should both real and personal and of every kind to and lawfully belonging together with household goods and cattle and property of what kind so ever or any ready money or the produce of any bills or bonds to me lawfully belonging and all the same equally divided betwixt my said wife and all my children at that time living or their heirs and if at the time of my decease I shall have a lease of the farm I now Occupy called Lauders Bank and my  wife shall either marry another husband or think proper to quit the said farm then the possession of the same to be given to such of my children as my executors shall think proper  ...  paying a just value for the same and if any profit ariseth from the said lease the same be toward the maintenance of my said youngest children and wife at the discretion of my executors

 Last of all I do nominate and appoint my wife Mary Forester and my father in law Charles Lightwood and my son Charles Forester executrix and executors of this my last will and testament hereby revoking all will or wills by me heretofore made as witness my mark and seal the day and year within mentioned

Signed sealed and declared the last will and testament of the within named John Forester the testator

In the presence of all whose names are under wrote being with and be in the same room at signing and sealing hereof

 
John Walklate   John Shaw          John Forrester his mark +

Ellen Weatherby

[tezbucknall]

Have just come across this link about the Forresters ,i know you are all pretty clued up about the Forresters but it may contain some info about them you don,t have. https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/familytree?uid=pk1949&surname=Forrester Tez.

[Martin Feledj]

The will is great and positively links John FORESTER to Mary LIGHTWOOD.
The person who recorded it spelt FORESTER without the double RR.

( Great list too TEZ - those are all double RR FORRESTERS too. imagine the list with FORRISTER FORESTER FOSTER etc. )

Back to the will.

I can't think of any connecting item in this will which links to anything SCOTTISH.

Can we be happy that the first property he mentions is the one in the map below ?

"all those pieces and parcels of land situate at Brookhouse Lane head in the parish and county aforesaid  which said land I the said John Forester purchased of Mr Thomas Walklate together with that Dwelling House and Out buildings and lands thereto belonging situate on the side of Wetley Moor and known by the name of the Limekiln Bank in the parish and county aforesaid and granted to me upon lease for the term of ninety nine years from Mr Thomas Walklate aforesaid.



I am fairly sure that the below is Launders Bank where John was living when he died.