Having trouble finding Great grandParents

[Bluebear]

Help needed please. trying to find Great Grandparents. John Davies born 1830 Lampeter Velfry. Hannah Morris born 1833 Whitland. Drawing blanks would be grateful for any help. javascript:replaceText('%javascript:replaceText('%20:',%20document.postmodify.message);20:',%20document.postmodify.message);

[CaroleW]

When and where did they marry?  1881 census shows eldest child 24 so marriage around 1855

The 1881 is free to search at http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp

Lampeter is Cardigan but Whitland is Carmarthen and they were living in Carmarthen in 1881 and eldest child born there so it's likely they married there.  have you checked freebmd?  www.freebmd.org.uk



 

[Bluebear]

Can not find Marriage. 1881 cencus, They lived at caradog st, Llanelli. I have my grandfather and all javascript:replaceText('%20:-\\',%20document.postmodify.message);other siblings, but am hitting a blank going back.many thanks.

[KGarrad]

Lampeter is Cardigan
 

Actually Lampeter Velfry is in Pembrokeshire.

[lizdb]

One step at a time

Here is the 1881 that you already have (so we have all the info in front on us)

24 Caraadog Street Llanelli
John 51 lab in Chemical works bn Pembrokeshire Lampeter Velvey
Hannah 48 wife bn Carmarthen Whitland
William M 24
Sarah A 22
Elizabeth 20
James 16
David 14
Edwin J 12
Robert 9             all childen bn Llanelli

and here is one step back - 1871
RG10 5465 80 19
Stanley Court, Llanelli

John 38 Coal trimmer bn Lampeter
Hannah 37 bn Llangan
William 14
Sarah A 12
James 6
David 4
Edwin J 2        all children bn Llanelli (but Elizabeth not at home)

I wonder if this is her - though it says 'David' as surname

RG10 5465 37 17
Glanmor Terrace Llanellei
Thomas David 64 labourer in lead works
Elizabeth 65 wife
Elizabeth 10 grandaughter
Mary Morris 18 neice

all bn llanelli

[lizdb]

1861
RG9 4112 19 31
Llanelly

John 32 copper smelter bn Pembrokeshire Llanbed
Hannah 29 bn Carmarthenshire Llanbridg
William 4 bn Carmarthenshire Llanelly
Sarah A 2 bn           "
Elizabeth 2 mths bn  "


and to put on the back burner, here are the possible parents in 1861
Rg9 4114 47 2
Llanelly
Thomas 63 working at lead works
Elizabeth 55
Sarah Phillips 17 step dtr
Elizabeth Phillips 1 granddtr

all bn Llanelli

[lizdb]

I cant see the marriage - but that is working from her being Hannah Morris - where did her maiden name come from?
Working from John Dav* is more difficult as there are millions!

Have you got a birth cert of one of the children?

[lizdb]

Now it gets messy!

in 1851 this looks like Elizabeth (granny)
HO107 2468 195 13
as Mrs Phiilips, widowed with children including youngest, Sarah age 7

and this looks like grandad Thomas with a first wife and numerous children including 29 year old John ....but what doesnt tie up is that THIS John is born llanelly, not Lampeter, and is stated to be a tailor, not a manual metal worker of some kind ...
HO107 2468 195 13
Thomas 51 Tailor
Hannah 51   bn Carmarthen
John son 19 Tailor
Sarah Morris 29 widow dtr
Elizabeth Morris 7 gdtr
Mary Ann Morris 4 gdtr   all exceot Hannah bn Llanelly

so I am not sure I am on the right track at all!

We need to find that marriage.
There is clearly a link between branches of the Davies family and that of the Morris family isnt there?