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Offline Jme79

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Looking for further information?
« on: Monday 25 October 10 21:32 BST (UK) »
I'm working on a branch of husbands family tree at the moment. I've got back a couple of hundred of years with regards to names and dates but I'd like to see if I can find out more information about these people rather than them just being names. They all had pretty unremarkable jobs as you can imagine - all agricultural labourers so I am not sure what I would be able to find out, if anything.

I'm looking for advice on how to take the next step - is it a case of scouring newspapers in case something comes up? I know nothing about these people and don't live anywhere near Suffolk!

Thanks in advance!

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« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 October 10 23:22 BST (UK) »
You could look at the places where they lived, much of Suffolk today looks pretty much as it did a couple of hundred years ago.  Many villages are full of medieval houses - the difference being that today they are well maintained.

When you know which areas of the county you are researching, you can find out whether there are any books, such as photographic books of the area.

Many of the books contain information on how things were in the county.
George Ewart Evans' books such as Ask the Fellows Who Cut the Hay would be a good start.

Pat ...
Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 October 10 23:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks. Unfortunately the census returns for the families don't mention actual houses, I guess they were small villages and I've been to all the churches mentioned but have never found a headstone.  Aside from the names on certificates and censuses it feels like they never existed!

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 October 10 23:56 BST (UK) »
Headstones were expensive and not the sort of thing that Agricultural Labourers could afford to buy. 

You can enquire if there are records of the churchyard to find out where in the churchyard your husband's ancestors were actually buried. 

Have you thought about looking at School log books or other records from their villages?

Pat ...

Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?


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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 27 October 10 22:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Jme79  ;)

I have an original 1871 Whites directory which covers all of Suffolk,  if you give me the names and where they lived,  I would happily read through the book to see if anything is mentioned about your people.

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 27 October 10 22:51 BST (UK) »
And I have Whites for 1844 and 1855.

However, they are listed by Hundred, then by parish, only those in trades or professions are listed, no ordinary workers unfortunately.

Happy to check for Gentlefolk, or builders, carpenters, blacksmiths, inn keepers, drapers, milliners etc etc  ;)

Pat ...
Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 28 October 10 21:36 BST (UK) »
I know what you mean, jme - just names on a list and dates don't really tell us enough about our ancestors' lives.  However, you can learn quite a lot by checking out the dates when they did various  things and find out what was happening at the same time.

For example, one of my ancestors, John Pearle, was born in Rattlesden, Suffolk in 1541 and died there in 1637.  He was born in the reign of Henry VIII, when the monasteries were being dissolved and died shortly before the start of the English Civil War.  During his lifetime there were outbreaks of Plague in the village.  Matthew Hopkins, the Witchfinder General, visited the village and 12 'witches' were executed in Bury St Edmunds;  and a group of villagers emigrated to America to found a colony there.  I do often wonder how these events impacted on his life and indeed, whether he was even aware of historic events such as  the Gunpowder Plot (1605) - did it pass unremarked in the village, or did it keep the rumour mill running for a very long time?
Suffolk: Pearl(e),  Garnham, Southgate, Blo(o)mfield,Grimwood/Grimwade,Josselyn/Gosling
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick/Sidgwick, Shadforth
Ireland: Davis
Norway: Torreson/Torsen/Torrison
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 28 October 10 21:51 BST (UK) »
Speaking of The Witchfinder General
Article in the Daily Mail On-line

Imps, warts and sex with the Devil: 400-year-old diary of Witchfinder General trials is opened to public for first time

Read more: http://www.rootschat.com/links/0a7g/

Didn't I see the film was on TV again late one evening over last weekend.

Filmed in Lavenham and in the grounds of Kentwell Hall in Long Melford - amongst other Suffolk locations.

Pat ...
Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 30 October 10 19:46 BST (UK) »
Oh that looks interesting Pat! 

I am coming over to Suffolk next week on a flying visit but will make time to visit Rattlesden and Hitcham, and hope also to get to Brettenham too.  My Pearle family was clearly fairly settled because my earliest sighting of them is 1541 in Rattlesden, and  they were still in this area until the middle of the 20th century!

Suffolk: Pearl(e),  Garnham, Southgate, Blo(o)mfield,Grimwood/Grimwade,Josselyn/Gosling
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick/Sidgwick, Shadforth
Ireland: Davis
Norway: Torreson/Torsen/Torrison
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk