Help in deciphering the place name, please

[blodwen]

Hi Folks,

Census 1891 - RG 12, 4348, 112, 13

John Donovan, b. 1830 (living on own means)  ? Cork, Ireland

Thanks

Viv

[KGarrad]

A possibility!

1881 Census, Trevethin within Pontypool (RG11, 5251, 34, 32)

John Donovan, Head, Married, 50, Road Labour, b Kilmordey Ireland
Mary Donovan, WIfe, 48, b Kilmordey
Elizabeth Donovan, Daughter, 9, Pontypool
Jeremiah Donovan, Son, 21, Clerk on Railway, Pontypool
Ellen Donovan, Mother, Widow, 78, Kilmordey
William Donovan, Son, 14, Scholar, Pontypool
Edward Donovan, Son, 4, Pontypool

[shanew147]

I had a look at the 1891 census page - I think the first letter is a 'T'.
Compare to the other T's on the page, e.g. the first name on the page Thomas

Other than the i (as 2nd or 3rd letter), I am not certain about the rest - other than the ascender character, presumably an l, and the descender character - presumably a g, p or y

I dont know for certain that it fits, but in a Co. Cork context the overall shape of the word looks a bit like 'Timoleague' to me.


Shane

[JustLooking]

Hi 

I thought it might be Timoleague yesterday but,  having looked at the entry on the 1881 census (RG11 5251  34 32 Kilmordey), I'm wondering if it might not be Kilnamartyra. Genuki has it as Kilnamartry - http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/COR/index.html

It doesn't look like it on the 1891 snip though so 

JL

[blodwen]

I would like to thank everyone who is helping me find the birthplace of this relative.

The place name Kilmordey was known, but has not been found anywhere, unfortunately.

Irish ancestors are difficult (sometimes) 

Viv

[shanew147]

here's a slightly clearer version, and it looks like 'Timlamy' to me. I cant figure out anything meaningful in the mark at the beginning of the line.

No such townland in Co. Cork - the only place I see beginning with Tim is Timoleague, and nothing ending in lamy

It has to be a mis-heard, misread or phonetic spelling.

I also had a look at the 1881 census - a very clear Kilmordey (twice) - but again  no sign of this as a townland - closest match might be Kilmoney...

Lots of places in Cork (and Ireland) beginning with Kill - it's the Irish for Church.


Shane

[dobfarm]

Hi 

I thought it might be Timoleague yesterday but,  having looked at the entry on the 1881 census (RG11 5251  34 32 Kilmordey), I'm wondering if it might not be Kilnamartyra. Genuki has it as Kilnamartry - http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/COR/index.html

It doesn't look like it on the 1891 snip though so 

JL

this seems most likely place JL found

http://www.timoleague.ie/

[aghadowey]

Wonder it the first 'squiggle' is something like Nr for near?

[dobfarm]

This maybe be a possible

Timoleague = in Irish: Tigh Molaige - Timolaige= House of Molaga
There is Kilmaloda   & Kilavarrig near  Timoleague

see link
http://www.timoleague.ie/

Google 'Timolaige' brought this up
.................
conventus de Timolaige, conventus de Inisiarcane, conventus de Biantry

http://www.jstor.org/pss/25487356

Sint-Truiden: Irish Francisican Documents (Continued)by B Jennings - 1962
conventus de Timolaige, conventus de Inisiarcane, conventus