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The Ryan sisters mystery
« on: Sunday 10 October 10 21:17 BST (UK) »
Hi, I am researching my great aunts emigrating to the States, but am reaching a brick wall at the moment.  Can anybody help??

Here is what I have so far:

Mary Ryan, born Uddingston, Lanark, Scotland in 1903 emigrated to Brooklyn NY 1925.

Catherine Ryan, born Bothwell, Lanark, Scotland, in 1906, emigrated to  Brooklyn NY 1930.

I imagine both married in Brooklyn even going on to other places after that.

What I need is marriage information for both these girls, and then even go on to find death certificates for them too.  Family rumour has it that Mary died of Cancer in Florida, dont know when but I imagine between 1940 - 55,

Can any of you good people help with this tangle, or even point me in the right direction?  I would be SSSOOOOO grateful.

Kathy


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Re: The Ryan sisters mystery
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 October 10 21:43 BST (UK) »
Do you have their parents' names?  Their exact birth dates?  Have you found them on particular passenger lists?  Any idea about their occupations in the US, when they might have married, or names of who they might have married? 

There are marriage indexes for New York City on www.italiangen.org, but it may be tough to figure out if you have the right people with such common names.

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Re: The Ryan sisters mystery
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 October 10 09:12 BST (UK) »

Mary was a teacher, she completed her education at St Augustines College  she taught for 30 years in Brooklyn. She married John Mulligan from Edinburgh. Molly as she was known was former vice-state Chairman of the Junior Daughters of America and was an active Girl Scout. Her sister Eleanor was with her in Florida where she died. She was survived by 2 daughters.

This obituary was i believe in the Stirling local paper.

Stasia (Niece of Mary)
Ryan, Bonar, Bonnar, Dooley, Ferns, Docherty

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Re: The Ryan sisters mystery
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 October 10 18:08 BST (UK) »
The marriage index that I mentioned above has a marriage for John Mulligan and Mary B. Ryan on 29 Oct. 1933 in Kings Co. (which is Brooklyn.)  Perhaps that's them?

There is a Mary Mulligan on the Florida death index who died in 1948 in Tampa.  Unfortunately, there's no other detail other than the fact that she was female and her race was white.

When was sister Eleanor born?  Was she married?  Do you have a death date for her?


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Re: The Ryan sisters mystery
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 October 10 18:16 BST (UK) »
In the 1930 Census at 200 Terrace Place, Brooklyn, New York, there is a servant named Cathrine Ryan, age 24, single, b. Scotland, parents b. Scotland, immigration date unknown, papers filed for naturalization, who is living in the household of Harry R. Gore with his wife & 3 children.  Maybe that's your Catherine?

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Re: The Ryan sisters mystery
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 October 10 18:27 BST (UK) »
If you don't have it yet, I found a possible match for Catherine Ryan on a passenger list for the SS Cameronia from Glasgow to New York, arriving 5 Feb. 1930.  It says she was going to Brooklyn to join sister Mary Ryan.  Catherine's place of birth was listed as Uddingston, Scotland.

I think the 1948 death I found might not be your Mary, as there appears to be a reference to her here:  http://ipac.hcplc.org:8080/ipac20/ipac.jsp?&profile=main&menu=search&submenu=power#focus  It looks as if this Mary may have been age 71. 

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Re: The Ryan sisters mystery
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 October 10 18:58 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for the information about Catherine Ryan. Where did you find this information? My Aunt Mary (Molly) Mulligan Ms Ryan died in Florida in the late 60s early 70s. Her sister Eleanor died in the UK in the late 80s I think?
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Re: The Ryan sisters mystery
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 October 10 19:36 BST (UK) »
Oh Shelley thank you SO MUCH for this information I been sitting here for days trying to figure it out.

As Stasia says, where do you get your info?  I have the 2 week free Ancestry and I just couldnt get ahead with this. 

Stasia is my cousin and we met thru Rootschat bringing us together, we're loving it!!

Kathy :)

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Re: The Ryan sisters mystery
« Reply #8 on: Monday 11 October 10 19:38 BST (UK) »
Yes Shelley, the Catherine Ryan you found on the Cameronia is the right one, 1930..  Do you think that the Catherine you found in the Census could be the same girl?  ie when was the Census taken?  It is in 1930 also.