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Re: Lookup - Vic Marriage - MURPHY and CARNES
« Reply #9 on: Monday 25 October 10 04:15 BST (UK) »
Vic bdm's

Michael Eric MURPHY,born to David MURPHY and Mary Ellen LONDRIGAN, Beechworth 1915 #18569

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Re: Lookup - Vic Marriage - MURPHY and CARNES
« Reply #10 on: Monday 25 October 10 04:32 BST (UK) »
In1942 when he enlisted he was living at Richmond in suburban Melbourne.

His mother ELLEN shows as NOK

Why is his father not NOK if he is on the electoral roll of 1949 and the son MICHAEL ERIC is not married?

If the marriage took place in 1943 and the discharge of MICHAEL ERIC was 1946, why was his wife not NOK?


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Re: Lookup - Vic Marriage - MURPHY and CARNES
« Reply #11 on: Monday 25 October 10 06:09 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

Everything I know about Lilian Liena Carnes I've posted here - which isn't a lot. Michael Eric MURPHY also known as Eric Michael was born to David John Murphy and Mary Ellen LONDRIGAN/LANDREGAN.

I'm guessing Lilian isn't mentioned as NOK because Michael enlisted but then went AWOL. I think they had enough trouble trying to get hold of him let alone updating his details. In my experience mothers are often listed as NOK.

Michael Eric never enrolled to vote or wasn't allowed to vote for having a criminal conviction for going AWOL. I was mistaken before, Michael's father, David, is not at Beechworth in 1949. He is living at Beechworth for every other electoral year but this one. So maybe in 1949 at A1 Mine Settlement, Mansfield, Victoria living at the address was Lilian Liena Murphy, her father-in-law David Murphy and her husband Michael Eric Murphy BUT Michael isn't listed because he wasn't enrolled to vote.

In 1951 Michael Eric met Czech immigrant Marta Simkova and they had two sons; one in 1952 and a second son (my father-in-law) in 1953. Michael and Marta married secretly in 1998 in Western Australia.

No one had knowledge of Lilian until Michael's death in 2003 when they discovered on his death certificate that he had married before. The family didn't ask Marta about it because she was unwell. Marta died the following year.

I think that's pretty much it.

Thanks to those that have been having a snoop around records for me :)

kind regards,
Eloise
MATT - Alsace, New South Wales, Victoria and Queensland.
FAMA/FARMER - Paris, London, Victoria and New South Wales.
ROSER - Germany and Toowoomba.
BARNES - New South Wales
MARSH - Cambridgeshire and New South Wales
EVANS - Llanelli