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Re: 1836 Leicester/Boro(ugh) Quarter Sessions
« Reply #9 on: Monday 25 October 10 04:12 BST (UK) »
Hello Toni, Hello Mike from Leicester
I apologise again but just too tired to stay the distance lately.
You have been doing great work.

First up though. Toni asked if I could send the D.O.B. so you could see it for yourself.

The place where he said he was born only shows up on this image below - I have not got a paper copy myself but viewed it on here also. You will see it on the right side of the page above Devon (I could only find a Reckleford, Yeovil Somerset, once called Rackleford - nothing in Devon)

http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON18-1-22,248,132,S,80

To Mike from Leicester. I think you clinched it. Finding Sarah Stanning claiming to be a widow on Parish Relief with two sons Samuel & John still living at home in 1851 was good. But better still, finding Samuel getting married and declaring he was the son of a Wool Sorter called Richard Stanning lifted the odds even higher. I am prepared to say I believe this is the family Richard left behind.
The baby born 1830, Mary Ann may not have survived.

Not sure what NBL or FWK stand for in 1851 Census - is probably where they were born? but not sure what they are abbreviations for.

Samuels marriage to a widow of 46 suggests his line died out without any offspring..lets hope John did better.

Let me know if you have any ideas about Richards place of birth.
Thanks again MC
 






Down, Ire: Rourke;
Armagh, Ire: Quinn, Read;
London, Eng: Clunne;
Kent, Eng: Clunne, Outred, Piplar;

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Re: 1836 Leicester/Boro(ugh) Quarter Sessions
« Reply #10 on: Monday 25 October 10 08:15 BST (UK) »
fwk is framework knitter a common occupation in leicester at that time
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: 1836 Leicester/Boro(ugh) Quarter Sessions
« Reply #11 on: Monday 25 October 10 09:36 BST (UK) »
Thank for that Toni

I didn't realise it meant their occupation. It seems the whole family were involved in the Woollen industry.

I found 'Stanning families around 'Buckfastleigh', Devon England. Lots of them there from the 1600's through to 1800's. Even two Richards. One bap1802 one bap1811 - with the latter being mentioned in the 1881 Census.
It was also known for it's wool industry.

Our Richard had a problem with his speech. Maybe he said 'Buckfast'? As I said I need another document giving his P.O.B. to be sure.
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Down, Ire: Rourke;
Armagh, Ire: Quinn, Read;
London, Eng: Clunne;
Kent, Eng: Clunne, Outred, Piplar;

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Re: 1836 Leicester/Boro(ugh) Quarter Sessions
« Reply #12 on: Monday 25 October 10 13:18 BST (UK) »
Greeting’s Again. ….MC.

Abbreviations.. :~

FWK. = Frame Work Knitter.
NBL = Northumberland.
Newcastle Upon Tyne = Place of Birth

Sorry. …… NO Mary Ann Stanning Burial found 1813 ~ 1990.

MIKE. ……
Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

Researching :-

Isle of Wight.          Oxfordshire / Warwickshire.

Cassell.                   Powers. 
Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.


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Re: 1836 Leicester/Boro(ugh) Quarter Sessions
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 06:27 BST (UK) »
Greetings to you as well Mike...

Thank you for filling me in regards the abbreviations. That is a great help. I think you might have been right suggesting Sarah re-married. After even 7ys without word from their spouse, they could I believe, do just that.

Her husband certainly did...to my GGGrandmother! By then he was free. I wonder if Sarah & sons heard about this marriage? They would have  known that Richard would have been free after 7ys. (Albeit, if he had no money to buy his way back, his sentence became a lifetime, anyway.)

At least I have some meat to put on  his bones. He isn't just a name and number now.

Sarah & her son John certainly did a disappearing trick. Who knows where they went? I will keep looking for a while at least. bye for now MC
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Armagh, Ire: Quinn, Read;
London, Eng: Clunne;
Kent, Eng: Clunne, Outred, Piplar;

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Re: 1836 Leicester/Boro(ugh) Quarter Sessions
« Reply #14 on: Friday 29 October 10 00:52 BST (UK) »
Greeting’s Again. …MC.

Another clincher for you………

BAPTISM ;~

1830.
St: Margaret’s Parish Church. Leicester.


Entry No’. 1808.
Dated. 6th August.

Mary Ann. Daughter of Richard & Sarah Stanning.
Abode. …Melbourne Street.
Father’s Occupation. …WOOL COMBER..

Signed. ….A. Savage. …Curate.

MIKE. ……
Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

Researching :-

Isle of Wight.          Oxfordshire / Warwickshire.

Cassell.                   Powers. 
Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.

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Re: 1836 Leicester/Boro(ugh) Quarter Sessions
« Reply #15 on: Friday 29 October 10 06:55 BST (UK) »
And greetings to you too Mike...Another clincher indeed!

How good is that? Occupation, plus place of abode.

Little Mary Ann was a Leo! But sadly she appears not to have survived.

Somewhere between 1830 & 1837 this little girl, 'Mary Ann Stanning' must have died, as from 1837 Richard claimed that he only had two children.

I have found a whole family (11) of Stannings in Buckfastleigh, Devon, where the parents are Samuel and Mary (IGI) including two bubs called Richard Stanning. One born 1776, and one 1802.

That our Richard named his first son Samuel and first daughter Mary, might suggest that these people in Devon were related. However, I can't find any place in Devon named Ruckleford or Buckleford, where he said was his 'native place' ...but it could have been the name of a messuage/farm perhaps?

Your blood is worth bottling Mike. You have filled in a lot of blanks. Thanks for all the good work. Cheers for now MC

Down, Ire: Rourke;
Armagh, Ire: Quinn, Read;
London, Eng: Clunne;
Kent, Eng: Clunne, Outred, Piplar;